spin lud

Hi, I would like to know if it is possible to have a Max midi audio device that also can receive audio from an audio track in Ableton. So basically I can access both the midi data received on the midi track where the Max device is and the audio data coming from the other audio track. I am not interested in outputing anything from this device, no midi and no audio should come out from this device. I just need the midi and audio signals to control some Jitter visualizations.

Hi, I would like to know if it is possible to have a Max midi audio device that also can receive audio from an audio track in Ableton. So...

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[M4L] Midi device that also receives audio from a specific track?

Marc Villanueva Mir

I am building a M4L device that should translate the audio input into a value in the range of 0-255, which will be used for controlling a DMX external. The problem is that the device doesn't work at all when attached to any audio or return track (in return tracks, it even blocks all sound), but when I enter the editing mode from Live, it works perfectly fine: the audio is coming in and flowing to the speakers, and the values are properly calculated. As soon as I close the editor and return to Live's running mode, the device plays dead again.

Might I be missing just something very basic?

Hello!

I am building a M4L device that should translate the audio input into a value in the range of 0-255, which will be used for...

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Max for Live audio device working only in edit mode

Rivanni

I made a patch that loops through all Live tracks, racks, and chains to find all devices. This process gives me several properties of each level, such as the names. So, I need not only the device properties but also some of the tracks, racks, and chains.

Take, for example, an audio rack with three racks. The first rack contains another audio rack with two chains. Each chain contains an audio effect device, and the other two chains in the main rack do the same.

When the rack in a rack is found, it correctly lists all two chains and devices in those chains. However, instead of going to the second chain in the main rack next, it outputs the data of the second chain in the sub rack.

it’s as if Max 'knows' it still has to process the second chain in the main rack, but, the id of it is overwritten by the one of the sub rack.

After outputting the wrong second chain, it correctly continues with the third chain in the main rack.

When I add a third chain to the sub rack, it also ignores the third chain in the main rack.

This is only a small example. With multiple racks inside racks, this won’t work at all.

What adjustments must I make to go recursively through the Live set, no matter how many nested racks there are?

 that contains the rack and Max device (made in Live 11.3.25 so most of you can open it).

I made a patch that loops through all Live tracks, racks, and chains to find all devices. This process gives me several properties of each...

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Loop recursively (racks inside racks etc) through a Live set

Sam M

Hi all, I dug around the forums looking for a solution to this problem and nothing I tried seemed to work, so I figured I'd start a thread. Apologies for anything that's unclear or messy, I just started learning Max a couple days ago.

Essentially I built a sequencer that uses a multislider for note selection. It works great with the cycle~ device I have running, so the problem doesn't lie there. The issue arises when I try to output the current note value to midiout/noteout in order to capture the notes in Ableton's midi editor. I'm not sure if this is because I'm running plugout~ simultaneously.

I've tried outputting to midiout, noteout, and ctrlout trying to find something that would work, passing values either through the port symbol or integers, but nothing outputs properly to Ableton in either the Max1 or Max2 inputs. I've also tried passing the note number value to midiformat which didn't help. Ableton's Midi Track In indicator doesn't blink at all, leading me to believe there could be something wrong with the midi setup/ports.

One thing is that I can't double click the devices to set the ports like the reference book tells me I should be able to. Instead of pulling up the menu, it just edits the object name. I suspect this is a M4L thing?

Not sure if anyone has run into this issue before, but I would appreciate any help. I can provide more screenshots/patch info if needed.

Hi all, I dug around the forums looking for a solution to this problem and nothing I tried seemed to work, so I figured I'd start a thread....

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M4L and midi output issue

Micah Hillman

My goal is to create a flexible M4L device that allows for dynamic swapping of effect chains within a structured signal routing setup (handled by Max). The audio signal enters the device from 

 and is split into two paths. One path remains unprocessed, while the other is routed through an effect chain. The specific signal routing beyond that becomes nontrivial and hacky in Live (but is simple in Max), which is why I want to implement it in Max rather than in a Live effect rack.

Ideally, I would like to structure the device such that I can load Live's native effects and third-party plugins to create arbitrarily customizable effect chains, much like a Live-native effect rack. I am considering options such as using 

 for loading effect chains dynamically or employing 

 for user selection. Still, I'm curious if some other approaches or objects might be better suited for this task.

Has anyone here worked on something similar or have any recommendations on how to implement this kind of dynamic effect chain swapping efficiently in Max for Live? Any tips on maintaining performance and usability would also be greatly appreciated!

Hello everyone,

My goal is to create a flexible M4L device that allows for dynamic swapping of effect chains within a structured signal...

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Dynamically scalable effect chains within M4L patcher

stephane moreau

I'm working on a device that midimaps a surface control to some parameters, with a fancy fullscreen UI with big sliders and knobs... I named it OSC

I have a big live set with multiple track groups, each track group is one song with its own plugin... and each track group has its own OSC device.

The device is currently in use and working almost fine. Each one has its own setting thanks to the dictionary paramater_enable attribute.

BUT each time i open in Max the "original" OSC device, and save some modifications, its dictionary spreads to all the other running OSC devices and I have to set them again individually, which is a pain.

For each device to have an independant dictionary, I preceded the dict name with the magical "---".

I played a bit to try to understand, I noticed that the "---" is replaced by a 3 digit number which is not the device Id. Those 3 digits change in every single running device every time I save the original device, and subsequently the name of the dictionary changes, and lose all its data...

Is there a way to force each instance of the device to name its dictionary with a unique name it could then remember ? I dont want them to be saved into a file and recalled every time, I'm sure there's a straightforward and simple way to do this.

Long story short, I want to be able to modify the "original" OSC device without modifying the dictionary of other running OSC devices...

Hi,

I'm working on a device that midimaps a surface control to some parameters, with a fancy fullscreen UI with big sliders and knobs... I...

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saving a patch without saving the dictionary

I'm using MIDI envelope for internal and also external  processing (CV) with Ableton

Anyone knows, or can help about how creating an option to have a join transition instead of having a complete restart for the envelope at each start command ?

MIDI Envelope with join transition point at trig restart ?

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Nick O

Hi guys. I'm interested in getting M4L but I was wondering if it would be possible to do the following first. I'd like to edit the LFO device in Live's library to add an on off switch for each of the 8 modulation targets in the LCD looking black window (with all the map buttons). Such that when it's off the corresponding target ceases being modulated. But I would need it to me an on-off switch that I can map to a midi controller or to a macro control inside a Live rack. I tried digging into it a bit using M4L in the Live Suite trial but can't for the life of me figure out how to open the Abl.MultiMap object to see what's inside it. Is this easily doable?

Hi guys. I'm interested in getting M4L but I was wondering if it would be possible to do the following first. I'd like to edit the LFO...

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Question about editing Ableton LFO device

Pole One

I have reached stalemate in the project I am currently working on. The idea is to use a XBOX controller that will trigger notes. For that, I want to create a sort of instrument fingering (like a flute or oboe woud have to seal the holes) with the buttons on the right of the controller. This idea would correspond to use a kind of a """standard""" fingering for a digital instrument.

I figured that maybe it would be playable to set C on the A button, E on the X, G on the Y and B on the B (to make an arpeggio). To make the middle notes (D, F and A) I was wondering if it could be possible to assign them with multiple button pressed. To do so, A and X would trigger D, X and Y would trigger F & Y and B would trigger A.

I tried multiple stuff to achieve this idea, and the most convicing one was to use the [if] object. You can check the patch atached to this post to look at what I tried. 

1) why does the [sel 0 1] object coming from the X buttons bang the two outlet at the same time everytime I try to do a D ?

2) did I missed an object that would simplify what I'm trying to do ?

3) I have the strange feeling that everytime I am close to the answer, I missed something and everything seems to be nonsens afterall. Like I can finally press A and X to trigger D BUT the A triggers the C at the same time which leads to hear two notes at the same time... 

If someone has a clue that might help me solving this problem I'd be thankfull !! (please excuse my english, I'm a foreigner)

How to get one note from various bang inputs ?

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Daniel Semmelrock

I'm trying to figure out how to loop a sequence of samples (Round Robin) playing a single MIDI drum pad repeatedly.

I also need to be able to reset the sequence via another Drum Pad (MIDI mapped) so next time I hit the other pad the sequence starts on the first sample again.

So far, I found 3 different methods of achieving that effect (almost) in Ableton:

Problem: none of these methods allow to reset the sequence via MIDI mapping.

Unfortunately I don't know Max4Live, to fix this myself.

Maybe  someone here  can help me achieve the desired effect :)

Hello,

drummer and Max4Live noob here.

I'm trying to figure out how to loop a sequence of samples (Round Robin) playing a single MIDI...

Cycling '74 Forums

Max instrument (midi input) + routing object for audio was the perfect solution for me. Thank you guys!

Aha! I just restarted Live and now it works well!

Despite the bug, the Variation device was a useful example. I could use some of its ideas to adjust my patch. All (sub) racks chains and...

The simplest way around this, IF you can live with the latency, is to use send and receive pairs between devices. It will add the latency...

"…I can load Live's native effects" This part cannot be done. Your choices are [amxd~] object to load M4L devices and [vst~] for...

Yes, off, same result

MIDI Envelope with join transition point at trig restart ?

Alternatively if there's a multimap device in existence that has an on-off switch for each mapping target that would also work. But the...

No prob ! thanks for the reply anyway :))

I am not Live user and so maybe I placed a text button that can't be mapped ? try this one with replaced live.textbutton