maybe this is fun https://nodevember.io 


nodevember


i only read until "cookie and candy"... so... where do i have to go for that? ;)


nodevember 

Martin Beck

It would help a lot to have a subscribe message for [mtr] in order to bind to objects - similar to pattrstorage.

The "bindto attribute" does not work with message sequences like this 

instead you are forced to create messages like "bindto 1 s1 2 s2 3 s3", which leads to a lot of unnecessary patching logic if you have many bindto targets whose names are not readily available as a single list as it happens e.g. with parameters that are contained in multiple instances of bpatchers and you create the scripting name path by [iter] and [sprintf] objects.

It would help a lot to have a subscribe message for [mtr] in order to bind to objects - similar to pattrstorage.
The "bindto attribute" does not work with message sequences like this 
"bindto 1 s1, 
bindto 2  s2,
bindto 3  s3"

It would help a lot to have a subscribe message for [mtr] in order to bind to objects - similar to pattrstorage.
The "bindto attribute" does

-feature-request-mtr-subscribe-message-similar-to-pattrstorage

Looks to me like it's working. I tried with this:


Thank you for taking a look. With your patch it works for me too. I guess I got confused while figuring out this [mtr] bug https://cycling74.com/forums/-bug-mtr-bindto-on-patch-startup-causes-problems .

mtr - bindto similar to  subscribe message in pattrstorage

Mr. Banshee

i figured Halloween would be the best time to ask this question, since the only way i can describe what i am trying to do is to "choke" a number. The idea is to significantly slow down the speed of the output (to the point where it seems like it's barely moving) in real time with the option of manually returning to "normal" speed.

My feeble attempt below which is not working, but i'm sure there is a simple way to do this but words and current patching brain (fried) are failing me. Trick or Treat? 

i figured Halloween would be the best time to ask this question, since the only way i can describe what i am trying to do is to "choke" a number.  The idea is to significantly slow down the speed of the output (to the point where it seems like it's barely moving) in real time with the option of manually returning to "normal" speed. 

My feeble attempt below which is not working, but i'm sure there is a simple way to do this but words and current patching brain (fried) are failing me.  Trick or Treat? 
Thanks in advance!


i figured Halloween would be the best time to ask this question, since the only way i can describe what i am trying to do is to "choke" a nu

"choke"-a-flonum

Thanks Kyle! Speedlim was at the tip of my tongue but i couldn't remember the name of it.  Never used slide before, will have to research that one as well.  

"Choke" a Flonum

lordcacops

I have been trying to solve the following problem, but I am stumped.

I need to assign indexes to a list of ordered values according to their size,

As you can see, the indexes are assigned to the random values according to their size, so that the smallest is 1 and the biggest is 5, and the resulting list is indicative of their size relative to each other, and of the original order. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

I need to assign indexes to a list of ordered values according to their size,
so that a list of random values such as:
13   2   9   66   30 
will be transformed into the following   
3   1   2   5   4   
As you can see, the indexes are assigned to the random values according to their size, so that the smallest is 1 and the biggest is 5, and the resulting list is indicative of their size relative to each other, and of the original order. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Hello,
I have been trying to solve the following problem, but I am stumped.
I need to assign indexes to a list of ordered values according t

assigning-indexes-to-ordered-values

maybe it could be done in a different, more efficient way...
that's what i first thought of :


Yes. This is exactly what I needed.  Making the random numbers act as the indexes for what used to be the actual indexes is so clever! I would have never thought about it at my level of skill.

You are welcome.
Coll is very helpful object for many tasks, can also sort stuff itself.


We can also use the second outlet of [zl sort] object, and we are almost there:

@Jean-Francois Charles Beautiful and totally not obvious. :) Thanks!

Assigning indexes to ordered values

grehan

Is anyone else using the C++ object dev kit on mac? I created a package but when I try to create an object with a name Xcode doesn’t open. In fact; nothing happens. Anyone any ideas? tks

Is anyone else using the C++ object dev kit on mac? I created a package but when I try to create an object with a name Xcode doesn’t open. In fact; nothing happens. Anyone any ideas? tks

max 8.1.5 
min-devkit 0.5.4

Is anyone else using the C++ object dev kit on mac? I created a package but when I try to create an object with a name Xcode doesn’t open. I

xcode-not-launching

I'm receiving an error indicating that `mock_kernel_postBuildPhase.makeDebug` is missing.

When I follow the readme instructions up to `cmake --build ..`,  I get an error indicating that `mock_kernel_postBuildPhase.makeDebug` is missing.

The solution to my problem was downloading an older (10.1) version of Xcode. The Xcode project still uses the legacy build system and that causes a warning/error.

That simply allowed me to get further outside of Max. If, within Max, I open the min.dev patch and select an object to compile, Max crashes.

I am seeing the same thing.  A few debugging details for Cycling folks...

When using the min-devkit launcher per and following along on the tutorial video, I click on the Compile Code step 2 and it is just silent. XCode never launches.

I click on the button in Create a Package and the new package folder is created (I'm named it "weft" which is used below). I then go to Create an Object and do see my new package name in the menu. I click the button to create an object, supply a name and then nothing happens. Again, XCode never launches. However, when I look at the file system in Finder, I do see both the package and the object.

~/Documents/Max 8/Packages/weft/tmp/min-cmake-log.txt

sh: /Users/<username>/Documents/Max 8/Packages/min-devkit/script/cmake-mac/bin/cmake: No such file or directory

I do see cmake installed on my computer: 

Little more debugging. This seems to be the reference to cmake that is out of sync with where files might be:

~/Documents/Max 8/Packages/min-devkit $ grep -r "cmake-mac/bin/cmake" . 
./source/projects/min.project/min.project.cpp: string cmake_path {"/script/cmake-mac/bin/cmake"};
Binary file ./externals/min.project.mxo/Contents/MacOS/min.project matches
~/Documents/Max 8/Packages/min-devkit $ find . -name "cmake" -print 
./source/min-api/max-api/script/cmakepp/source/core/cmake
./source/min-api/max-api/script/cmakepp/source/formats/cmake
./source/min-api/max-api/script/cmakepp/source/cmake
./source/min-api/max-api/script/cmakepp/tests/formats/cmake
./source/min-api/max-api/script/cmakepp/tests/cmake

here's what I can say to get you going with Min (terminal commands are for Mac, adjust if on windows)

don't use the Package manager version, instead clone from github (you can clone anywhere but easiest is probably Documents/Max 8/Packages folder). the branch tag is optional:

git clone --recursive https://github.com/Cycling74/min-devkit.git

ensure you are meeting all the necessary prerequisites 

I had to make the following change to get the package creation script to run - open up the script/create_package.rb file in your favorite text editor, and insert a # (pound sign) at the beginning of line 69 and line 70 to comment them out, and then save the script file.

#FileUtils::cp "#{source_dir}/.travis.yml", "#{target_dir}/.travis.yml"
#FileUtils::cp "#{source_dir}/appveyor.yml", "#{target_dir}/appveyor.yml"

[edit: the above step should no longer be necessary if cloning from the tip of master]

to create a new package, run the setup script, passing the path to where you want your package to live: script/create_package.rb ../foo 

this creates your starter package one level down and names it foo

cd into your new package directory build folder, and run cmake to test the build : 

On Win - cmake -G "Visual Studio 16 2019" ..

Open the generated project (e.g. build/foo.xcodeproj) in your IDE and build the project. If you are working from inside the Max 8/Packages folder then the compiled external and help patch are already in the correct place to be found by max (Max 8/Packages/foo/externals)

To add your own object, follow the instructions here - https://github.com/Cycling74/min-devkit/blob/master/HowTo-NewObject.md 

Rob, thank you so much, I got everything up and running. Now that the environment is set up, I am eager to continue learning C++, min-devkit and the testing framework. I'd be happy to rerun any steps to test future changes to the repository.

I got everything working per your instructions with one minor caveat. In order follow your instructions precisely I first attempted to "download" a release, but this resulted in an error in the final steps of the Ruby script. I then cloned the release and everything is working.

Details follow below, including the unsuccessful attempt in case it can help anyone in the future searching for the same error messages in Google.

Attempt 2 (Successful): Remove download and generated package from attempt 1, Clone the release tag, retry

git clone git@github.com:Cycling74/min-devkit.git --branch v0.5.4

~/Documents/Max 8/Packages/min-devkit-0.5.4 $ ruby script/create_package.rb ../weft

Running cmake from the newly created package's build directory also worked. And then I could open the project in Xcode.

The build also succeeded, but with a warning. In the other post where I tried to build from the command line and it failed, I got the same message from within Xcode, but this time only as a warning while building the default hello_world object.

And for final confirmation, I can create a [weft.hello-world] object in Max itself.

Attempt 1 (Unsuccessful): Download the tarball file, move it into Max 8/Packages, extract contents

   SOURCE DIR: /Users/<username>/Documents/Max 8/Packages/min-devkit-0.5.4
    TARGET DIR: /Users/<username>/Documents/Max 8/Packages/weft

fatal: not a git repository: /Users/<username>/Documents/Max 8/Packages/weft/source/min-api/../../.git/modules/source/min-api
'source/min-api' does not have a commit checked out
fatal: not a git repository: /Users/<username>/Documents/Max 8/Packages/weft/source/min-lib/../../.git/modules/source/min-lib
'source/min-lib' does not have a commit checked out
fatal: Failed to resolve 'HEAD' as a valid ref.

I can verify that during this first attempt most of the Ruby script worked because the last call to its substitute_strings_in_file method did change the newly generated ReadMe.md contents to replace the default package name with "weft" (my package name).

The first git command (git init) also appeared to work because I ran git status and saw untracked files.

ah thank you for following up, I see now the release version doesn't include the package scripts! 

ok I've updated the post to suggest using git clone instead (make sure you're cloning recursively to include the sub-modules) 

please add `git clone https://github.com/Cycling74/min-devkit.git --recursive` to step 0 of building. I figured out the travis, appveyor bit eventually but the need for --recursive is pretty subtle. 

Thank you! It works in the command line (the 13 Release tests still 'fail' but that doesn't seem to be of consequence), Max doesn't crash, and max opened the project when I selected the object on the compile page!


thanks for confirming, I've updated the min-devkit readme as suggested.

Thanks all for your help here. Im up and running!

Quick question, the HelloWorld max Object. How do I actually open that in Max?

I edited the helloworld code and hit build in Xcode. But the object output is the same in Max.

Is there an extra step in rebuilding? Tks 

What are the exact steps to rebuild the object after I have edited the code? Because I am having issues where the changes are not showing up in Max.

After building in Xcode, I just quit Max and restart it, then create the object as you would any object. Since my package is "weft" I would just create a new object [weft.hello-world] and it would show updated behavior.

Ok tks. So you just build in Xcode, nothing with Cmake or anything?

Yes, I just build with Xcode, though I am not very experienced with it. The only thing that has tripped me up is making sure the menu for the "active scheme" is set to the right thing. For example, if it is set to specifically build <something>_test and I intended to build the Max object itself.

Ye I built with Xcode but after restarting Max, the object wouldn't show up when I typed it out. It never shows up with autocompletion.

Eventually it shows up. But doesn't seem to be regular steps . Have to just wait until it shows up. Sometimes dragging the object from the package folder speeds it up. 

you have to make sure the external you are building is in the search path. this is why the min-devkit instructions recommend installing in your documents/max 8/packages folder, so that any externals build will already be in the correct place.

alternatively you can add your package folder to the search path via Options -> File Preferences 

This is my path 'Max 8⁩ ▸ ⁨Packages⁩ ▸ ⁨min-devkit⁩ ▸ ⁨foo⁩ ▸ ⁨externals⁩'.

yes. it should be Max 8 / Packages / foo (your package name) / externals

ah ok, Whats the quickest way to change that path?

What worked for me was to create the package using the Ruby script per the instructions above. So after doing the recursive clone of the min-devkit repo into Max 8/Packages, I changed directory into min-devkit and ran:

~/Documents/Max 8/Packages/min-devkit $ ruby script/create_package.rb ../foo

I believe that passing "../foo" at the command line to the Ruby script sets up all the paths correctly and results in ~/Documents/Max 8/Packages/foo. Then from Xcode, when the project builds, the actual Max external object is in a place that Max's search path can find.

Working like a charm now. The problem is I ran the create_package.rb ../foo from inside the script folder initially, so this time just ran ruby create_package.rb ../../foo

Xcode not launching

Max Frecka

I am seeing a lot of performance issues with Max, in particular when using video. I have an NVIDIA RTX 2060 Super and 9700K intel with SSD. I'm a bit confused how to improve performance and not have any stuttering in the output, like to "render" video? I really want to make it work and be able to express my ideas without having to worry too much about performance, as much as possible.

Here is footage of what I'm talking about. You will see the stuttering where the rendering is not able to keep up, and then the crash.

I am seeing a lot of performance issues with Max, in particular when using video. I have an NVIDIA RTX 2060 Super and 9700K intel with SSD. 

bad-stuttering-and-crashing-with-jitter-is-it-my-fault

Can you upload the patch? Without a patch to look at is really difficult to spot those kind of issue. 
One thing: in the Nvidia control panel are you sure you are using the right graphic card with Max?  

I kind of figured it out that the stuttering was happening every time the LFO was activating the "convolution" option on the VIZZIE Pattern module.

I have too many questions other than this one and haven't done enough work learning/respecting the software to ask other people for help yet haha. I intend to turn Max into a central part of my workflow from now on so I should probably take it more seriously learning how it works from the bottom.

Bad stuttering and crashing with Jitter - is it my fault?

Jens Ehrich

The note selector that I'm creating as part of a solution for 

 is behaving incorrectly when no notes are selected. When one or more notes are selected, I get the desired result. However, when no notes are selected in the kslider, 

 continues to output whatever note was released last.

How can I update my patch so that the length is 0 and the selected note is empty when the input list of held notes is empty?

, but thought this forum might be a better place to get Max related answers.

I have a decent programming background, but I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to M4L/MaxMSP and graphical languages.

The note selector that I'm creating as part of a solution for this question is behaving incorrectly when no notes are selected. When one or more notes are selected, I get the desired result. However, when no notes are selected in the kslider, zl.len stays stuck at 1 and zl.mth continues to output whatever note was released last.

I originally asked my question at Stack Overflow, but thought this forum might be a better place to get Max related answers.

Hi Maxers (Cyclists?)
The note selector that I'm creating as part of a solution for this question is behaving incorrectly when no notes are 

how-can-i-handle-an-empty-list-in-my-selected-notes-patch

Thank you both for the help! DOUBLE_UG, I came up with a similar solution that uses borax as well. I'm going to try and wrap my head around SOURCE AUDIO's solution; looks I could learn something new here. 

How can I handle an empty list in my selected-notes patch?

William Echard

Sorry if this is an obvious question, but I've been poking around for a while and not finding an answer. What's the best way to set a default MIDI output device for all [noteout] objects in a patcher? I'm working on a rhythm sequencer that has eleven voices, and right now each voice feeds its own [noteout]. Since I work between a few different setups, I frequently need to change all the [noteouts] to match the MIDI interface of the day, but I can't see a way to set a default in the main Max MIDI configuration window, and it's time consuming to double click them all and set by hand. Thanks...

best-way-to-set-default-midi-output-device

William - great name you've got! ;-) (I only get called William when I'm in trouble.)

I'm not an expert here, but 2 possibilities I can think of:

- In your different setups, is there any chance you could edit (and save for future use) the midi settings in Audio MIDI Setup? If you can do that, give the same (preferably simple) name to the instrument on the MIDI port that you want to be the default, e.g. "dr" for drum or something. All your Max noteouts would be [noteout dr] and if you select the right configuration in Audio MIDI Setup it'll work.

- Make all noteouts [noteout d] or use some other otherwise unused abbreviation. When you start working on a particular setup make sure "d" is the abbreviation for the correct MIDI port in Max's MIDI Setup.

Oops! Sorry, I'm on Mac. Dunno what the equivalent of the first possibility is in Windows.


In case Bill's suggestions didn't help: The best way to deal with setups that vary is to get the list of current midi ports with midiinfo and then have a 'global' setting which sets the desired port and sends the setting to other midi sending objects yiou want to use the same port. The example attached is a more specific version of the example at the bottom of the outport tab in the midi out help file…


Thanks Bill & Spectro, between those two options I think I'm well covered.


Realize I'm trying on an old thread here, but I have a similar question--though I realize the problem is likely outside of Max.

I have a patch that I always use with my same little desktop setup.  I have my notein set to my "Arturia Keystep" as it was in the midi ports.  Thing is, every few days, it keeps getting renamed.  Right now it's "Arturia Keystep Arturia Keystep 32".  My iPad IDAM is now "iPad (internal) (internal) (internal) (internal) (internal) (internal)" No joke!
Any ideas why this is happening and what I can do about it?

You should at least mention if it is Mac ( which I think is)
or windows.
Stupid thing in Audio/Midi setup on Mac is that it keeps adding and/or 
renaming Midi Interfaces depending on USB ports they are connected to.
Would same problem affect BlueTooth Midi  Devices?

My Motu FastLane USB for example gets grayed out and new interface
named FastLane USB #2   gets created instead if plugged into different USB port.
You could try to extract keyword like Arturia from the symbol
and select that menu number in the menu populated with Midi devices.


Deleting "ghost" interfaces in System Midi Setup regulary
could help reduce that repeated (internal) (internal) ...


Best way to set default MIDI output device?

Zygmunt

Has anyone come across issues opening a pfft~ subpatcher in M4L?

I can get the subpatcher to link/open in Max standalone, but not in M4L. I am saving the patch, and subpatch in the same location. Is there any file directory trickery to this when using M4L?

pfft-subpatch-issues-in-max-for-live

I think I have this figured out. I was linking to a second .amxd where the subpatcher should have been a normal .maxpat file.

Can anyone confirm that this is correct?


Does no one else have this problem??? Come on... Why is no one responding? Cycling team?

Experienced something similar earlier this year. If I remember correctly, the pfft subpatcher must be located in the same folder as your main amxd device - within the general ableton library/maxforlive folder(s). This may be most easily accomplished by 'freezing' the device before saving - this should collect any dependencies (like the pfft subpatcher) and place them all in the same location so maxforlive can locate them.

pfft~ subpatch issues in Max for Live!?

Matteo Marson

following the point cloud patch (you can find 

), I'd like to share with you a way to create cool lines with a geometry shader.

Creating lines was definitely harder and a lot trickier than making points, but together with the kind Federico Foderaro we managed to grasp how to do it.

The GLSL code is still to be polished and optimized.

Still3.PNG

Still2.PNG

Still1.PNG

Cool Lines.maxpat

coolLines.jxs

lineTrails.jxs

following the point cloud patch (you can find here), I'd like to share with you a way to create cool lines with a geometry shader.
Creating lines was definitely harder and a lot trickier than making points, but together with the kind Federico Foderaro we managed to grasp how to do it. 

Hi jitter jedi,
following the point cloud patch (you can find here), I'd like to share with you a way to create cool lines with a geometry s

patch-sharing-lines-with-antialiasing-motion-blur-and-dof

Wow again, I'm astonished. If you agree I will try to modify it for some visual perf.
Ciao!


shure! Fell free to modify and use it as you prefer

Patch sharing: LINES with antialiasing, motion blur and DoF

Ben Bracken

We are excited to announce the availability of our 

 as a public beta. We’ve worked closely with 

. The Eventide H9000 is a rack-sized multi-effects unit with powerful DSP processing capabilities and numerous high quality built-in effects. We’re excited to enable RNBO export for this and open the door to unique custom studio effects and instruments without the strict limitations of other hardware platforms.

RNBO support is similar to the existing Gen support, but more streamlined, and uses the built-in 

, rather than a watcher patcher, to manage the export process. Eventually, all of these changes will be rolled into the standard release versions of RNBO and this package.

Get the preview version of the RNBO package (v1.2.7-eventide.0):

Get the preview version of the "Eventide H9000" package (v1.0.4-beta.3):

We’d love to hear any experiences and feedback from RNBO users with access to an H9000. To join the discussion, use the 

We are excited to announce the availability of our Eventide package for RNBO as a public beta. We’ve worked closely with Eventide to bring...

eventide-h9000-package-for-rnbo-public-beta

Eventide H9000 Package for RNBO - Public Beta

This update focuses on Max for Live stability, fixing regression bugs, and a few new 

The full list of improvements are below, or on the Max 8.6.2 release page:

: Updated LOM documentation to the state on 12.0.x.

We are happy to announce the release of Max 8.6.2.

This update focuses on Max for Live stability, fixing regression bugs, and a few new...

Cycling '74 Forums

We are excited to announce the availability of our Eventide package for RNBO as a public beta. We’ve worked closely with Eventide to...

We are happy to announce the release of Max 8.6.2. This update focuses on Max for Live stability, fixing regression bugs, and a few new...

i only read until "cookie and candy"... so... where do i have to go for that? ;)

Thank you for taking a look. With your patch it works for me too. I guess I got confused while figuring out this [mtr] bug...

You bet, Mr.Banshee. :)

@Jean-Francois Charles Beautiful and totally not obvious. :) Thanks!

Working like a charm now. The problem is I ran the create_package.rb ../foo from inside the script folder initially, so this time just ran...

I kind of figured it out that the stuttering was happening every time the LFO was activating the "convolution" option on the VIZZIE Pattern...

Thank you both for the help! DOUBLE_UG, I came up with a similar solution that uses borax as well. I'm going to try and wrap my head around...

You should at least mention if it is Mac ( which I think is) or windows. Stupid thing in Audio/Midi setup on Mac is that it keeps adding...

Experienced something similar earlier this year. If I remember correctly, the pfft subpatcher must be located in the same folder as your...

Ciao Riccardo, shure! Fell free to modify and use it as you prefer