Cycling '74 Forums » Recent Posts

Cycling '74 Forums » Recent Posts http://cycling74.com/forums/ Cycling '74 Forums » Recent Posts en-US Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:54:16 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 Notify windows position ? http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28290#post-140494 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:52:31 +0000 Emmanuel Jourdan 140494@http://cycling74.com/forums/ My bad… in fact window getsize -> thispatcher is the way to go. loss of memory: bi- directional midi-communication http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28317#post-140493 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:37:58 +0000 seejayjames 140493@http://cycling74.com/forums/ depends where the final values go to, I'm assuming you have a GUI which controls your hardware, then the hardware out makes the actual sound. To update the GUI you'd need to send the hardware's values back (if you are able to change the states on the hardware directly) but you need to pass any value through "set $1" otherwise you'll get an endless loop (stack overflow). [ctlin] and [ctlout] should be what you need to communicate. Either way, in situations like this, you nearly always need a "set $1" unless an object you're using has built-in stack overflow control, like [pattr]. Ableton & M4L Sync problem http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28297#post-140492 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:35:19 +0000 broc 140492@http://cycling74.com/forums/ Johannes, thanks for clarifying the reset issue. So your original patch seems to confirm my assumption that metro alone doesn't sync properly. I think it would be helpful to make a clear demonstration since cycling apparently isn't aware of the issue/bug. Good luck with your performance! jit.cellblock a little help...?? http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28315#post-140491 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:32:27 +0000 Vasilis 140491@http://cycling74.com/forums/ thanks ergaster... Java 200 times faster, almost as easy to use, so why Javascript ? http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28299#post-140490 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:14:39 +0000 Roald Baudoux 140490@http://cycling74.com/forums/ I have used JS to develop two or three projects. As most of them were non -realtime I didn't care about efficiency. I chose JS essentially because I wanted to use the drawing capabilities of the JSUI object and because as a non-programmer (I mean no experience in any formal language outside Max, SuperCollider and GW-Basic). I also wanted the shortest possible learning curve. I had one project to create rhythmic patterns using JS. Reading the resulting data in real-time with JS produced tons of clicks while reading them from colls worked correcly (althought transition between Max4 and Max5 showed some reductions in performance for very fast MIDI rhythms). I have been thinking about learning C several times but I always postpone it. Just my 2 cents. loss of memory: bi- directional midi-communication http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28317#post-140489 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:10:27 +0000 schurer 140489@http://cycling74.com/forums/ hi, on the road, preparing some patches for a stage play, need some dirty advice: what is the best way to establish bi-directional midi communication between harware controllers and gui's, so that both reflect either states? i.e. setting values in the gui update states on the controller and vice versa...basic, i know, but only having crude "workarounds"... thanks & best, nn */ jit.cellblock a little help...?? http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28315#post-140488 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:09:10 +0000 ergaster 140488@http://cycling74.com/forums/ hi vasilis loadbang --> message select 1 1 ----------begin_max5_patcher---------- 406.3ocyT9saCBBEF+Z8ofv0cFAQ6xtYYOGKMKnx5nCAiPSaWSe2mfZacyYr YlrEiPNeG9yG+3nG88fop8LMD7.3Yfm2QeOOmjUvqM1CVP2mInZ2vfELsltl AWzjyv1ab5ZlAfpeNvJerKobaAWJXF2LwWDUaMcpnV0WURil+AyogCBakaFo 4PIqwiPHXUapRpI6Mtb8KUrLSSVBZY8LAnPjsaYhK39fvyygm67pJcycIvq1 YIsvsAvmp3TAzl3juusYwDwhjsqdU+FUDJZdJUtdPhflEh3V9wnBlPrfHJ11 lDZawgCCEx7BketVQT6Na4xeUkBlDeUkRBdrJkn4EJa3lfLlPjJTYuO54uRs yEGMHOH2HODbsAtnlKcumOqYJQu8YDd0zgCibXCMLvPSCXtoVaK4W+Aja+s5 8onVssJq6zz9IL3hAxYZCWRMbk7pwf5Ml2344LW5NLUvyKUboo0BDbRPb84L BY6vwjyQfUCdWOUuFM+d8W5HxDbTz+NGkbaNBGGYuAWtz11d4ZC54z5fS9eB cfsluB -----------end_max5_patcher----------- hth rob sfplay~object does not support MP3 http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28271#post-140487 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:04:45 +0000 seejayjames 140487@http://cycling74.com/forums/ I don't know the ins and outs of this, but I imagine the immediate-play capabilities of sfplay~ would be compromised a bit with the decompression... also to save as mp3, possibly there could be licensing/patent issues, the latest formats are still under patent. But this is all conjecture, and I'd love to see it supported too, if it's possible! recording and playing back interaction ... http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28313#post-140486 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:56:44 +0000 seejayjames 140486@http://cycling74.com/forums/ [mtr] is one of the most interesting and fun objects out there, designed for just this: <pre><code> ----------begin_max5_patcher---------- 718.3ocyW1siiBBEG+Zmj4cf3cahqQ.seL2sOG6LYCpLsriBFESa2I669BX0 Z+vQmot0dQg.bjyge7mCz2e7AK6PwVZgM3IvOAVVuq5wxzmtGq5NrrSIaiRH EFCsiDooTtz1Y+fR5VY0.Irn2.OayEYhjjmsAgzWE4TvNQIHKgrCDRhdyAHj qo4aXETPpnrfVHIRJXCKIADI3RFujBjBfLWYr9SyUlIYBdA3ou03yWUVxIoT ie+QNijzLDuLkwSnRSvBq6kEaLUD96uOqsohRYssdsm7B1eLSND41zeFQFsl wW8qbZjrhYn4pgAPrtLH.4h777fHG.xy0C7h4696iOnqUUNCFwkJ.W1DlLIM c+djcgTjY6.rczEZn1zHsTRaZTxOpYNkD2zXSN6nghD4J37x.PqbWVsX4f88 xaLpCfiuHvgtAKCfKlWOX0Gnc8dDvzZOfs42gv3RaNyLaKK0kKBzkW41BmtQ sfNW3mJyA3Os1z+BrxuCT4+0PUCm5kUXCeVpU6fYAt9AJgbv0CrxzPZ9nbpE 1XZVNsPk+gnSJzZE.QHWUDCWX1u81WbjNsEPQsioWIQzi76WRPFR3q5QP5M2 DhHeivDNBRRoX0pD5vwHB2gBC9gKuObYAgKLYAqVVHuw3j13IbPckueRj.P+ EisDnyrRM2tNJbDC6fiAWEx5rpGIm4h2kFJBWhGALlRKJHqnmyQ8iY9zDDcI kXeG855gGmmWeHvYlANpD6yMoE++.mp25MJ3AeqvyLjAIU7Ivjt5h3oZVrSX 7ydhrYZ0CbBzJTuWMpNL1egN.eHbhUGHYbyUWsLRcxBz5lp0r3XJ+nmjlxhy DpSEMu9p6cxAGZm30KGZmD+2nPS6UTeglNw9DfsSca2bCMIbC1K2vSC2vCka vadro+KJ8CN+IgaCBa3oIEB5NN1LtEcel50Dav6zDb3AcwvHjEQ2gp5e4atG GC -----------end_max5_patcher----------- </code></pre> [select] not accepting list no cool http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28285#post-140485 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:48:44 +0000 seejayjames 140485@http://cycling74.com/forums/ here's a little patch which lets you populate the rows of a [matrixctrl] with random probability for each row. Change the numbers in the [uzis] in the subpatches for the number of steps (if you want 64 or whatever). It's an easy way to generate sequences of on/off stages rather than manually clicking or painting, though you can always adjust them this way and save as presets, if you've generated something interesting and want to tweak it a bit. Also don't forget you can hold Shift to change how the dial responds (more precise)... number boxes (int and float) and sliders also respond to Shift. <pre><code> ----------begin_max5_patcher---------- 1826.3oc6ct0aihCEG+4LRy2ADZeraD1laY09x9MX095nQUDvMkc3RDP5zcF se2WiMj.oPvIEhgtm9.zZvv47Ge+7St+7yeZk91zWo45Z+l1WzVs5mrTVwSq LkU0IrRO16U+Hub9MpuOilSKzen5ZIGhCShnE7KhpSMLfeuoa+6ekX27dSOT Teyl0IKRq3e1SEVxwWgldXB+T6Dz9ZcN26U3+bXxtGyn9EhLiHVqMdPaiQ4Q jA+jI6n1W444e+7mJOyN8fzdbB86LG4nWTPesPnDGS5ozjhDuXt8q+GYgdQC nOOGFDPS5UxHGyN2ySJ7JBSSZ5kFbuD6hJOYTc3jvzVoQMsy7vevsSDlkq99 BLfFW+14mHFqsX+Qq2OOSzrJUsVVYFPXD8EZVNyaZZXqzO8vc1v+xQv7WgMg +AjPZ7zYev1Ek5+MJWwLNlZ.8oq6wjtmlbJGFMkx15o3VCSZ903MuauCQEO1 iB29Fdxym1e16tfzJ8cYgAoIkFR67Vld8qj8sg+Mo7XCqmeKId66J6EooQa8 xdILObaDs8WEVECujvXuBZQnvnvFmxYX79Ld8wlONZhG6w7bteVZTT6ml3Ru z0kBnuD5S+dXPwy7GWCgqUSTMKL0pha6KbVEX+z3XZxw1rZWK1Oh5kokk98V W9BeH5sV84UiwjyySi5jFm+15pTSe0+LcZz5lC5T8ui4qpctpe8gIR5RiJEN MVkgQW6vSk1g3hFwb50tXZdt2NZ2Z2ufzHZF2rtg6Q2PtWP2PxpaWn+fd0UQ mAHadORltqMMX+fYo3NIha6NkaqsG9QHyPlB009BpK4lU2sdI6JGbS84VCxY nFAH7BxVtqIkBNQQklwrRynwWusTToYqlMRn1ByYdIAowLmxc7kWxjHuRU7U nvXwHIcwSXyvWRbyoQSQw1K04E9c2LgzhqqnT7l01UEeUfBu2y+aiu.iTa6B n51bUnvNccxYLe5jyrZVbt2m93tjd+6itPaq7VeqJNas1QMM+VnsUKTa6nO6 AqIsDb0hRw+ygUZ93gs3kiYx8D2fAWZ5WuL5a1VlxVT7MhxSQodxLZUdMXjo nXW8w1YqdtlkVk9nKMBK+FlIpkryDsC21wrbfMD22se2XwbhBS5cAQ3lP4Mz ihjmdHyu9SWci8Z311S.MuHL43hb8kS84pgZemmVFyVBQbXv9TVsjJq7ZJme 8N.arVZFR6.FyOG.IsCXMOc.WYc.7L0ArV3NPYy2x4.yzO.1R2Hj6rzArj19 sms1ORF62dV1Gfz0e481MCK+Sj0AlmEe5RV64C.YV5.1Ra+3Q29quPoqTE8z buWnAOxderwQ9nWQQV31CEhw70JZpWNlhWJVhxDuwACoY+u1Nu8cQoa8hphL 7wWp9Qu+liOOSbJNEBJIHRvbvvqKFots8UEc8tmv3EijtXw6wN0yCu536.Vg fggOnoTXMjT3LNRwYSSry4JY0TKLqOtn.2vXXvM3BIlXqRvMDw0..2..2..2 ..2..23JA2.Cfa.fa7gAbCL.tA.tA.tA.tw+a.2f0UG.tA.tA.tA.tA.tA.t wxDbiEO1.KdvMV5nynxndAgc7CPbeW5wc+C.1CKYpSV7X+r34tZoC9lRQOD. 23tCtAZvvqKhtNFcm.2.aoJvMvCBtw3HExCtQkVrHA2.6LL3Fhn135nPvMPa fcbC.bC.bC.bC.biaAbCD.tA.twGFvMP.3F.3F.3F.3F.3F.3F.3F.3F.3F. 3F.3FvNtA.tAria.63FPjegcbCXG2.H+A1wMfcbC.bCkBtwoURs2vqKVZcG7 8AbCjqp1wMvaFDbiwQJjFbiZsXYBtQe+2kYpHvvB15L.BL.BL.BL.BLtEBLL .BL.BL9vPfgAPfAPfAPfAPfAPfAPfAPfAPfAPfAPfAPfAr0Y.DX.acFvVmAD .WXqy.15L.9cfsNCfgPf.iQk.iyhQ0ooW9WkADN+4aOd6MmFfj62FhUrXHTE LFJh7cMEJ9zGLs5eoPFUw6OyR2NNJmg93IBNMDgtWXy6ACOtx8OMGW26CAOa TE.OCxuiswXnCRiuylomdGloDTFJLMayohiGmqAiGm011XWW7MhxiP2DGssW uoNNWV205Sl5SFbaDUsqDg0mNJ0Hi21KTrGa3Eu5Wjcx07SiNDmHLVao82A6 e7DZUXK2pxa81XP+kmiBy4K+J+7kwTizTsrpzNm2od0NL3mwQzU2j.tq8yJm 6DGe1hlmqv4yphFzNjGwSo8JOVIWmOX6ZQ6MCxtzqZLz49lhV6apiFJ6db0c 9oTday9cYaFSossQFSiXoDcSNaCOesM7FkXatRoalyXaCMesMrqZZCgLiaey XFaaly3F3N+01iwQTiwgkx3LTiwglw8MfmwiEA6Ni63BKWupNpw3jx1rUisY OeKwIUANyY7f3ThoIUSHpoVp48Q0JSfc5+nbV6XD -----------end_max5_patcher----------- </code></pre> Java 200 times faster, almost as easy to use, so why Javascript ? http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28299#post-140484 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:36:31 +0000 AudioMatt 140484@http://cycling74.com/forums/ "Any use of javascript and java inside maxmsp should be illegal. " I've broken the law. rehabilitate me. someone! I've been trying to get started with C/Max for 5 years now. never got off the ground. Why? The thing I've had problems with in every language isn't the language part but the way it's set up on in the OS. There are never any details about it in any tutorial. There's always a line "find foo.baz.clib on your drive" and it's never there. I've spent four years programming mxj externals and I have no frick'n clue what ANT is, how to write scripts for it, or where "java" is on my drive. I open eclipse, include max.jar and I'm done. Maybe that makes me not a "real" programmer. I couldn't care less. I'll try again soon when I get around to installing snow leopard but setting up max and C has taken weeks of my life and I've never gotten it right. That comes off ranty.. but it's more a rant of desperation :-) audiounit~ public beta http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=25316#post-140483 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:35:00 +0000 broc 140483@http://cycling74.com/forums/ I have tried using AUNetSend and AUNetReceive. AUNetSend seems to work well, but AUNetReceive is not loaded at all. Any reason for this? Ableton & M4L Sync problem http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28297#post-140482 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:26:56 +0000 Johannes 140482@http://cycling74.com/forums/ counter reset <pre><code> ----------begin_max5_patcher---------- 427.3ocyU9saBBCEF+Z3onoWyVnEqf6t8brXV3OcXWfVCTxby369JG.Q2PFt LcdgkvoG64662ozt01BGo1vKwnGPOgrr1ZaYAgpCX09tENObSbVXIjFNpRqU RrSyTpJcFWqeeMuYMvQgxTLZY6zqC0wqDxzmK3w5lLlEL+dWGDMXF7vsab++ Qj.0QE85cK5JirJWHMEBj.oOXS4ahVGbmsc8fyD8RNurLLk2UEMeCHRr2IsW u0dQI0khOfIHTiKNsiofU8XfWaFIAC6Xe7AKuLLGVd7iEhvrAYA8OiEZUZZF +jFWH0i2VIPakvH+bakcgaqR9alx7stZNWWnPTlq6D28dFs34LvvL3gOYL26 8u0hGkKWBr3Er.HAA.RKiNAVn2ZXIVUI07BDAQbG8yBGywBs+N5qjy4Dh.3D BHKju+XbhblbhMHmlc.mfpfyDxudQ.nz53GCuRUUQbG.Z2Qi50ZBuTKjgZg4 Vh9bLxFQ2myJQRBGltiJ4hj0JC9Zk.Z4fMxopH1DTzwp9RqnovnEWUEQlfhL WGY1+eK00nWUFQm3N6eqhLury9S.2xAKyB -----------end_max5_patcher----------- </code></pre> Java 200 times faster, almost as easy to use, so why Javascript ? http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28299#post-140481 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:26:21 +0000 AlexHarker 140481@http://cycling74.com/forums/ Yes - I guessed as much once I'd figured that out. I get about 160 times faster here on a dual 3.0GHz MBP. FWIW - the javascript calculations as far as I know are double precision - the java ones are not. I wouldn't want to speculate too much on what difference it would make, but I think you'd see it in the figures. Obviously, single precision in javascript is not an option, but it would be better to compare like with like as far as possible... I can't help but feel however, that you are looking at large data, large loops within loops situations that may not be typical uses of javascript. I'm not going to disagree that js is bad for this, but in small applications I think you might find that worrying about cpu usage is a waste of energy. After all - if you have a process that takes 1% of your processor (for example) in a scenario where you are running at around 67% - then when you speed that up by 200 times you simply won't see it clearly in the results - so it's not good economy. If it takes up 40% of your processor however.... Ableton & M4L Sync problem http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28297#post-140480 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:24:02 +0000 Johannes 140480@http://cycling74.com/forums/ Hi, thanks for all the answers so far. I am really happy that you took part of it. I will do a little conclusion: a) to have a high accuracy I will use the transport / tick alternative in the Ableton-Patch shown above like actually all of you recommended. (M4L-related) b) Andrew says that he does not have the timing mismatch in the simple patch which I copied in this thread above. But I still do, although I changed the metro-attributes (Max-related only). I can reproduce the bug the moment I start/stop the Transport more than 2 or 3 times. This is still a major-bug to me... I can still do some convincing here by making a video of my actions. c) the third inlet of a counter does understand a bang and is resetting the index to the given min-value. Please try it out broc and then you can see the reset this way is fine. I hope with all these suggestions I may have a nice performance this evening here in Austria. Thanks a lot again! Best Johannes Live setup (not Max for Live): One Mac Pro or two MacBooks Pro ? http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28316#post-140479 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:23:31 +0000 Roald Baudoux 140479@http://cycling74.com/forums/ Hello, I have been developing a big patcher for a live setup, with sound recording, effects with pattr presets and interpolation, some gesture control with a Wacom, sensors, MIDI keyboard and faderbox. I have reached the limits of my Core 2 Duo 2 x 2,33 MacBook Pro (7,2k RPM HD, RAM 3 GB). Hence I want to upgrade my configuration but I hesitate between adding a second MBP to the old one (meaning exchanging audio streams between the 2 computers) and replacing it with a Mac Pro. What would you do ? Any experience to tell about either configuration ? Thank you in advance. Roald Baudoux Max/Msp native synth PartII: building it http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28273#post-140478 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:18:10 +0000 AudioMatt 140478@http://cycling74.com/forums/ holy crap... I'm behind. I'll try and go over all this this weekend! MAN /sorry Current time of a clip?? http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28243#post-140477 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:45:32 +0000 alersito 140477@http://cycling74.com/forums/ thanksss for your solution! C74 problems http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=24625#post-140476 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:36:52 +0000 Mayou 140476@http://cycling74.com/forums/ Oh yes I tried with a modern IPhone and TouchOSC works. So it comes from my Ipod touch ! damned ! =/ csound~ v1.1.0 http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28306#post-140475 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:33:49 +0000 cebec 140475@http://cycling74.com/forums/ As always, thanks for this! jit.cellblock a little help...?? http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28315#post-140474 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:22:23 +0000 Vasilis 140474@http://cycling74.com/forums/ Hello, I would like to ask if anybody knows how can i change the default pre-chosen cell of a cellblock when i open my program. That is to say, when i open my program its already chosen the, default, first cell of one 3*3 cellblock i have and i would like to change it, so when i open it, it would be already chosen the central.. Thanks.. [new thing] FantastickJS http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28310#post-140473 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:12:23 +0000 jusu 140473@http://cycling74.com/forums/ EMV: Sorry, no such thing. The app store update is quite easy to follow, don't you think? When there's a new version, it might be a good idea to check <a href="http://pinktwins.com/fantastick" rel="nofollow">http://pinktwins.com/fantastick</a> for the latest help file, or other new stuff. You might also add a Google Alert for any changes to that page, which are quite infrequent. I can't read every post here either, but those alerts seem to catch the occasional FS discussion here. Applescript popumenu of a folder 'content http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=27951#post-140472 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:09:09 +0000 Ad. 140472@http://cycling74.com/forums/ It works on 10.6 but not with 10.5 for me. London Max/MSP http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=27396#post-140471 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:50:41 +0000 panniccioli 140471@http://cycling74.com/forums/ 17:30 is not very good - do you think it would be better to be a little central. Dalston is not the most *desirable* place in the east ; ) @Desmond, Character? we'll all be starring at screens - Starbucks has nice coffee : ) London Max/MSP http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=27396#post-140470 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:47:42 +0000 brendan mccloskey 140470@http://cycling74.com/forums/ Thread hijack! erm, I live in Belfast, and I'm really envious of you guys on this thread......any Maxers near me??? London Max/MSP http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=27396#post-140469 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:42:19 +0000 Desmond DoDecaHedron 140469@http://cycling74.com/forums/ Although Cafe Oto is a nice idea, the cafe is only open until 17:30 if there's a gig on later (which there usually is), so unless anyone wants to meet there on a weekend, perhaps we should seek an alternative. There are other cafes in that area which could accommodate, but as I said in an earlier post there are hundred of pubs all over London with upstairs rooms or just a quiet downstairs. Are we all agreed on Dalston ? - it's got character cos it doesn't have a Starbucks (yet)... Des Track number of current device http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28314#post-140468 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:11:45 +0000 sbl 140468@http://cycling74.com/forums/ thanks! the this_device path is quite buried in the doc ... Track number of current device http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28314#post-140467 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:10:41 +0000 matthieu 140467@http://cycling74.com/forums/ hi, that could help you ----------begin_max5_patcher---------- 532.3ocwVFsaaBCEF9Z3o3HKs6xpvPHA1cauFSUUNfavaF6HvoKqU8ce3CvZ Raf3DkPuADmyw1+74eejew2irRuiWSfuA+D77dw2yCCYC308sGojsKSxpwxH k75Z1ZNYVaNCemAiK.VIXpXY+Fl2mTJT7L8VEVQXWvG0JihUxwQ88JAS1WtZ aodqQxM3JQ6h1Fx72M7VYRHv86MU0hmwDzv6B5BugYxJDp0OTwyLsCJbdSVf tL09JNv9LpY.+elD4nbzq90WWtmbDpd0DZi8puu8wLGQkh+mlI7CjpdSkPYd D1iXeQlS9LwSbLhm3H7UnsVHL337gdT9Pud7w.q.44hivgvwJlZMY1kgkTz0 rLpytDOLThWbqohTyxa+WtR9Dbxt.nPCnn8.MIKBFypbygxyRnzT.QWM2xk5 T5N.EtD6uDMFThnWsFLC0KdM2znwhO0VJywVssOiQGCM43.I7l2wUJdhemkH foPT+PN+IQFeX5.+P+V+3CQTznFmgMOANbhpkUzfjwfEM4l2nwBqlDV4cIH5 bcQANbtpkIwoiRlzSZivgg2J4cW4AWYa7CwUsdaUVu76O6Bus547ZiPwLBsZ uhNrlBQdNGS2+aVJx2natAPmFf6O5dmqRxEE0b.CnSmhRcPRQSKkr8XN8FW5 ztyk3flrWrXB0DtbTW3zz4mV3xVWxzioSoo244NOM07wq9+Cz0kHfC -----------end_max5_patcher----------- matthieu MaxMSP Gristleiser? http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28305#post-140466 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:09:36 +0000 cudnylon 140466@http://cycling74.com/forums/ the gristleiser is just a lfo with 4 selectable waveforms controlling either amplitude modulation or filter cutoff. the weirdness comes from the extremely high values the lfo can run at, causing a ring modulation sound in certain settings. the problem is that most of the appeal in the sound is the analog aspect. a max version would not work exactly the same (you can't starve the voltage to your patch like the bias knob does). maybe using degrade~ for bit crushing would be a suitable digital alternative. overall a very simple patch to build. having one of the reproductions would help you fine-tune the settings. i know the website says the lfo goes as low as 6 cycles a second or ~0.16Hz i think but i don't know what the maximum frequency is. Getting out of the day job... http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28307#post-140465 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:09:01 +0000 brendan mccloskey 140465@http://cycling74.com/forums/ Current academia, in my experience, is becoming practice-based across levels and across disciplines, especially in design. The university I attend almost frowns upon the ivory-tower 'research for research's sake' ethos; whereas industry focus in academia is more discipline-specific I guess. Track number of current device http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28314#post-140464 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 10:58:30 +0000 sbl 140464@http://cycling74.com/forums/ Hi, this seems easy but I can't find a solution: How do you ask the lom to give me the track number (or name) where a m4l device currently sits in? I don't want this to be done with the "view selected_track" but in the background. For example: I would have a device that only prints the track number on startup. I have 8 tracks and drag the device on each of them. On startup it would say: print: hi i am track 1 print: hi i am track 2 ... print: hi i am track n much obliged for any help stephen Getting out of the day job... http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28307#post-140463 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 10:37:38 +0000 justin 140463@http://cycling74.com/forums/ dunno academia is a bit weird for max type things and audio related matters... i actually teach sound production (and sometimes max stuff) at uni, so i like to think im fairly well placed to gauge the situation. what strikes me about them is the reluctance to engage in the industry, and the lack of forethought to anticipate what students will be experiencing once they finish... ok some uni's are better / worst than others! my experience has been that teaching approach is mainly theoretical (usually some bs about social media), with usually little in terms of solid practical support or teaching. basically its cheaper to read off a text book to 300+ students than to do lab-based teaching... i have actually been put off doing an MA or a PHD because i dont believe that i will actually do anything other than read / write about an imaginary project which i will never be able to bring to fruition (or maybe i will be able to pay someone else to do it - hahaha)... and that is what they call a practice-based degree!?!?!?! sorry but that dont cut it for me. i'd rather spend the money on a house / mortgage, and get on with being actively involved in festivals / gigs / production with real outlets - not some stale peer review! so i would actually encourage others to get experience in the real world, even if it is badly paid. sure its not always viable to do it on the long term, but at least u get to meet ppl and u never know what will come of it. this is especially true in the audio / music industry, where academic qualifications dont seem to count for much... if u want to do studio work then a logic / pro tools certificate with a decent portfolio of sound work will probably get u further than a degree! i wish i was born earlier then i might have been able to do an internship at one of the classic studios in the 70s, where they actually taught u stuff, paid u and it led to some work! dunno if i can say the same about today's academic route! as always ymmv! [select] not accepting list no cool http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28285#post-140462 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 10:20:00 +0000 milc 140462@http://cycling74.com/forums/ thank you for the replies! [zl sect] was the perfect solution. it is perfect. I don't know how much I owe you, Ch. Suddenly my sequencer looks elegant and I have much more expressive freedom while send out numbers than click,click,click on toggle boxes like a pathetic idiot. And the [zl] object is globally very interesting and promising. I was looking for some kind of array manipulation of numbers like in Supercollider's pattern methods, and [zl] should be max's answer for that. great... for those of you who pointed out that my approach to sequencer, thanks to did so. I didn't know that max has limited nums of arguments. for %, I know that it is very useful but not for this time. (the example I've posted is just for sake of simplicity, I do not wish to generate 4/4 kick with [zl]!!) I'm thinking on learning Javascript to write my own system to do my sequence. a kind of number generator using different type of data input. One example I saw is an object that simply bangs two times when you send a bang. From that point I think I can develop b,b,b...b,b,ba,bang,ng,bang. kind of thing...long way to go...but loads of fun promised. thanks again and if ever somebody have some good examples on scripting in max, I'll be very interested. best, jae ho [new thing] FantastickJS http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28310#post-140461 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 10:12:18 +0000 EMV 140461@http://cycling74.com/forums/ Cool! Is there a way to be notified of updates to Fantastick, outside of the app-store stuff? I'd like to stay informed even when I'm not checking the forum every day. (read: e-mail list?) recording and playing back interaction ... http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=28313#post-140460 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 10:03:53 +0000 anamaria 140460@http://cycling74.com/forums/ Hi, In the below patch, I want to record if the mouse is clicked or not (this triggers a tone) and together with this I want to record if the mouse x position that triggers duration. Somehow it has gotten to complex for me, and I can't get it to work ... is there an easy way out?? Thanks, ana ----------begin_max5_patcher---------- 4636.3oc6cssbiZjF9ZOOETp1bQp0d19DMvVYuHO.6gK1p1KRkZJrE1i1AKz JgmjIox69B8eiLHna9QFPM1NUEqQRfn6u9+7gt+8Ob0pay90jCq79qd+j2UW 86e3pqTeT4Gbk98Ws5w3e8tz3CpKa0iIGND+PxpqguKO4WyUeNo5S1sO4Px1 737MYa+z9j6xgecdH8ijq8nDd4KD8e79Y8cs8oGydJOMIW8Tn5OE9n7usKA9 QVs53MrKN+tOuY6C0dDTt52lpdPb1G8K92A0dFaVqFoY29eugyqFt2msMea7 ipGvpeb+l3z5eygM+l5aT+lGGoa1VMPYke1e7gOT9mqegHHc0HhEQBzPA6xA EaS9khgPKj3PRpmAzfYBMtMd6CqttWJDVIfDEpfE.hhL.KD2CV7tKMId+MOl jls9aciOjdm7TlhKIjYa1yh5e1eWVZ1d3mlTmmt3Ws1OJFLhdFXzcYO9XgXl 1bQeu2OdW9luFmm3km4UL8y1u9Zue4yIa8VmDq+p0dw2mmrW+0E3jW9mKu9s Id+xlzTuaS71kF+shq61369hmuW9lB11pGV5lsE22SaUOQwfWGj.zCBq7UHl uAlSV33PEdNHbd1COjlLPgRaJAEabfBkHIghCjQp9amy8fUi0TwHC0g73842 bjJX37TvzIPsVFQrxR4e4VJML+SyhWWpMxaTU8.qpT0eCrtBSGtVX+HeZXvX gKlTE+aI6yFSHQK4kqPCsUJgFvD5HhIio4Ikl0kOlfhLrNnHsBJhKLnXfA5w j78YEj2CDVT1pzOKToRgh+JsxB46lHyWRLXfhvlliq65k9YrBUbTB6.UvHBT jw0VWQnmHpa3h2m8tnr6UK+gnPH+PqZcIWXYxShYGUxbwX1Ae7L63oGuMY+. cjQS42qLBIW4UWXjh1mZcJIuvqolDel8zgjBSvxMrb6OXYEHDYnMOA3BnQba .Gm9ZjY.P.v8W67BbwpYvDTPD13pAErHmCgAATgZxvbJ4xYXtwXA0v4mWroV .ZHnx9CGTj6EXLUTOFUOThX.PDUKNPFvCA24hCzdDwA5kALfgBgV8mUNmQHZ DM3JO91zDu0OsWEg5IR4LCBysfnzxDDXCH8Go.CTMnO74reIY8lb.5qtT3Sp G5Bh1OcPaPsWNNHOD+0j0epXLVbSeJNOe+laeJGRWvUGAcCOvhmXgwOqa7Ia yxSpleG+vCadX6oWWEFbxpT4ECX.iPNd06KVLN9gpOSQnLV1meWbA4BoLPcj hmf5gL15iAOgYUouvp1JlXbnVjio7nx.mdiJfoipbZNADP66q3hrFwZZfyKP xj9MNmLpBw0jSPB2B8sosW56bZ21sOYWx10dibzlpPEvteYjUUaB2yhPhWDK ZbCSKXhLXbbjzlQP7n2LjIZTgEzOYhf3bQz+vt8EZat266RWW9+SAx.u.gby HxPcN5kBQ+oCLhjpvpU8+XflPkdJ+HkDWSPyXkFngYi1yFiM5VHoU+qRH53p +Wiq5v1EXkYj5GrPcHQiepbILpnmN1N0yDmYzao5N2NcN7uId6ZkIn2raSAT XGHu8gFyEIgGwXWW6eQOcVcNo.ky.kpLqEZBMbbEHnFNI6OU.v8aRS9Zx9Ck dS87UW38zyATlpDeITiVouh0Kn7cUi5RbKM6tubh2ZqSteP+HYE5se9FNgRh b5UtYa8BJ6zGb7So4epazo42ee7cIFu4NA8qV8v9Mqy1VNHZbmkeb0iqvMZe Hbx0G2pqXa7tNt47rrzai2+0MG1baZRiUhBx+3sadLNOorXSzNzV8kadToYu wuUiZ2q1ZcCVoFetMVpSEJ0coQXlopG1DyRo.dDHhSgmxozJXI0GGlW6LyzX PXzyJEupRnz4fnpe0yDppGl.iAxEbHFx1ie0eMAVhUFmy09hpJop7tVMhXgE pqVEdxnSVIURSjRk.HYPejUrwmrhNOPYmACd74R0EqQPX2AF1nRMD.JJyJtX bzVf9CUldjs8lr6u2L1SrCtzHfSFdocgY1NTWAWRzkNWna6nJNbrEpIOA.sA h9gV4aAnMI0iXFRY1DUzpdSLJxfpHj8g5bki.5m.c6r4AP2osVJOSavzDasD Dytvn9wT9DfomNDe1YilvmQmNN0wiPAvjplURBHMLjzbd0s2Gc3ABxeMztgf vUDLtizqKIHcKwhqI3bOoGWT5wMkdcUwj6Jc6xxITLsXFa88mvTd6S44Omev dY4PTMIV0TWU6bxtqclNMsTzwnqCQ9MjR0TR0KEjZI4pozqB0rkHPCiwsqV. QIIN.3jBASV1ogOFKOObR05QxlEMFWt0CU6O4wruZvGzpwoJr6aEAJ8XgD0J BYZWQb.NjClbxxtAo8IFgGZ1feqdTsPQ4l8rUaX9G9Au0pr5U1PVYa81bewe S+lWYaYU7uKaQKvcfCdG9b1SoqKt761rV0nWGxy1othiQr5ZuRtg9jpgY4Bh fNEVtDLAp0Kwxe8pYtnaudQdg5cQIRJPmYZR20tXmX+q.cD8g8z4.6Yzgi8r 2D5mIijsRCgEfGZ1SZisQ1q6kAVeh2mFyjz7EZEBnrRJZ4qNXd80BRxA3T.N OsBbcGs9yuPr6zLDYm7DpFEsT6dnNkKeoE.Z8hM1CvNFj.6tSwlsbRZLu71S 21Eznavh59b2DiYx5lPCR8OEiPQ9xWn3oY7cxrEiBARGh.LNBS6QdhrLHLe4 9uIh.uswSWxdmtbf9Hvn3IKoSBYYy3aWtEszSflUykxqyNpdH6o82UgHZckd smeqSNjuY6wLC7SOGarNt3OuY851QcWsFtY8trB87Gp5.Bk1anMhnxfiuy6m OKZnycNWFDazS5xPU8Rlzy8biOjETwxZtUR+wvN2JAB5xZtQGxbagstQdcN2 nCgey+kM0ftehAYAEDlxfjgNuSY17Mkm6o1.lYxE0LaHp7Bd0NyjKJcBAuZo FoCgQitrzHLDKpMfCC0hZl5EcywV9FGdJGsnVLiFxhIawM0ntvTq1WVLOetb 75oY.aUdd1KxrQqX0RytMNUWpfGutFWBpGgohp6zu6CsQsQn7OamP1tSD9nV umbhnVkhzcFXaVvmL2tHZakCog.WsxcjsF8mHLm4nlPVilP495sFH0dYcOY0 t8EgViBaSM97.jzZxnEaAaWl6X+otB3q.TzU.uLzsAz1QruQsacrDrfxjy6e 7O+OmceavfhamAkuMUDzO3ErX6gKcqyWtKCYipTzW2CVa+J.SyDpoOEPOxD3 2ODKGeH1et5Pii0E3MY6UcUT4N69jIKEh3DSG3dlrerkLAjuicmZPAUqUu.J ECCNuF0.4O168owqg9zv0JoNHOvvFKFxJpy+sQiGLmqBPshLnUAwxeUnuBef 582T04t2IZnNupevWuAKvdtlvtvUC1alRWGHug9QDW0S6+dgqOJHOHdeHHu3 8JfrAUKkFguhd3NcEPNFkBE5Ru8nVr2HUCk+.B2O+UaVRWXUfg30a4HLD5Qw q1Jsf9Jdp4+dh0dUkXs92Cfpu0XN7PISizG6EF1Ewa6nu+amsWol6ZqmA3F. GwrBXuqh1O3JdC.tcsiZbNoXBUBOq1eQgiPOYuz2gxEcZ6nSdZ6pb.hhKscg AKW7zKcyg7jskabUkhCNew.ZLSx5dyAuEl8BDwpSJOUDQXNujf8nQ3W39cIr e0yPJFNT7hwelyu+LNuRgg89c3HkBgPX96BgQ.mPQ7fPFriW1S1JnmhKz6OM YaDtLnxw7C9XX4+4esmtVJBsflmetnqe7GdwnPWmTl8DFgLk0YFE12lX7nmO TUsQhFDsbIQISL0IWWkOrSODZZAhgK28HzVGXMSEZB0alr2cGzfkaESAb37I lCmMPNb96b3FAQnd9zcegMNb5xkCOI1RAkwQT8dcbDFamWmEQMuED0.VIuSa Z5zTH.Yw0K8eW4SufITLO8q7QJVrJelGGffcSGdXHNOfb8cOcaL3roS6CfhB JCGKdfXwxhu2qpnlu4vtjj02rax7oTu+yykfZGZuGGHhWMga5B0YNJwoBvPz 9oh4jEcvkHSei4.3IbRK2urUN8cimLsuOgsawXguSSh.NoHC3IKX41pXhu26 e+z9sk6v24YOWoypVG6P99j3G8xt2acbdb8aurrRTYq9TmoFVekoOeBAVesb .gEb12sMS0FNy9du+d7WNES893G+34mmOceMoOQ0PH5jsbwO5Q5z+R182WRq B8PlEhzAAlR8oaq148dawQN2swRapgTmeBS7oSGqwFjsk7avEK67a7b+hR7n jYrgQ0BO0Y4u2rLy8c69EMO6gGRSlviqyJ.iDgauHfKWcgisw+SUqcdroMv5 ZXArcT1q6i7kaE1TmUkSHj4jastp5ndCHGOzsYVs5ji2z46MPpBmj09j9RPI O58XD2KXp2hv6kjTPVtwHV0W0268coqK++IFPIDbkcmvwCjwjqPFz0vfR6re 8wB1aB8wZTABuX+piE7Er53zzyTCbc0uX4KgCJa+ntNBNZfn9S6l+w.aekjG uUu4cL6c7wzexvC0wgO7BhSF9ErS2zoUsiDLGRD1m+1rEd8DNaktkjPwYYDc AGVR5MgmcHy3f.Ueve592Uk3KVCH2q2E0tY2lBTXBSlKP44CEAST+aBXzyJU t5r3F5ShBeg8vEYlnS+Wk.+YSoB0xpTW1a868saSn1ZqkXfoM.zW.Q5t6sEA SaIBlMpoysBgZy0i+5s29Cdd52UGKWCDZ2oxxV6uwl1R.ZsEO2cOJeZ+IWlO fByE8ASS3PZAZ9NAALaovOZe86dtwkstZOzoqfgb1RC7Ouo6DMv6Z7XXj2wJ 5kbjW1JKM2koMLvCacbsb4G2Dria2AuEXIT5XBdQw6.rzIR2hNI.KdKcK5Dr C6.mZXiVLX.eQB2RgawUJwRl3V5KCwh2sOYpvMtCTV0HEpW.CWTuYhlOnsaw srZIDM2piMv8mXxmohLgrHoSZehugdyR5xJTGKaovwTFQwNtcKxaAVxata4C DGqS1BGi9luPwarVsvcKia4hkIcBCqOPrvko7aliQmfU9MmrP4KoKywsiE0P zAMLvs75LPLD42tSrfXX82or3D83tC8M1wsftPsOwsz6HQGMH2RdhzeHzIzk Gcx4h2RUIQwCTIDLL73atz7qAtk9+.5PF2zkm8smaPm0Gk65V8gSO9toZg.K CgiEWNN1EBtaI3j6uLcriSFBd6NFzDfcbG3VN1EfVPS3xL..AQig.xnoW.Yz DuPnmCbNbXpFb7MSUBwHKSImAXM0IzsL0gRWnozXg55s.eJjbLUrnyQpuXYF 7T0YAqKwZJISbMONkVQxQg3RGCwknoUBcrQd3BstKwWYuvpC+7KsWX6SiA6+ GMemPWizLULQTuaxpPVzIEQ3Xk1KZSEBXN1HGc8Ofcf2tEKLcD43ZSQ7bQt2 bjO1KiNVTUnAxEpoSNV7IB4Wh5hS+gUmfc809u5Ifk1Nx5IVGhSqtdNo5V06 OaG86T2mNc.Jn9Kr9olb05xIXxZoM75rYw6tQwQ1j3c10cDX2RV1cCh2nanp 1RQLu.Ynmv5r2oTSqOo13xNY8+3tqm73Rf9pZ22TeI4aM6GqUeMN8IML3KOR V1ESj9dYceuAXtWd22aDl6Uz48J4XtW+tuWAl6U188FV6dOSF2i8qO874AZ1 Ij05VWFw6FOJgP75lWfXlHmBsFt.1RIjs1r.aryKORD4i3Te8S6G9TlVeq5k EZaJ66dS4uljN3obfO5YL+xMiMHi+w3ujrMKOwixBpchA08V7p0ysg9k1KzG gH5FfkXPbOavfT8MIglHEe7PpRTpX9ebi4.OAhd1Gp6sb6yd4DM6UOrlcBL. FmZRmFRZa7bCaPQU2isMgqay2Zs.gdLwcuwzIONL0Y4ziSDL3Tj6gSL+4cLI wLlDCaLEvgcWJHGjAAPpHoUs904OXEHFrRwrBfMSNEph0c5I9wfSz4kPqYit YZLMuLjm73LLlXy6ZGEyXJbdwILJc3h4Gmn8I3R5dqcM6juoesS3dxmnTGbL gR477ZDCCiQLT57Ol5iuiNy5fwfSyqpEzZVny1Px2G6XhMaiIAFMKh40RELV DKlYg39XjNIlWIABLzS9y7ZGJODl2wDOx8nwEXjXxmYqw8kK0A0LSQcRxZGI RJNU2UNPXcoriu6kxT5iU307oLTfwDTw7ZtGES7Fox4eLQwLlN20th27Ge3+ CakZSrB -----------end_max5_patcher-----------