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			<title>Midi confusion with APC40</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Danny P</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;This thing dominates. The faders and knobs are slightly weighted and feel superb. Each grid LED has 3 different colors with both solid and flashing modes. The messages were very easy to decode.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Just to save some people a little time:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Using the midiin/midiout objects:&#60;br /&#62;
The top left button on the 5x8 clip control grid is 144 53 1, where 144-151 is the entire top horizontal row, 53-57 is the vertical row going down (the next row down in this case is 54), and 1 is the velocity. The bottom Clip Stop row is 52. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Velocities are as follows&#60;br /&#62;
1 - Green&#60;br /&#62;
2 - Green Flashing&#60;br /&#62;
3 - Red&#60;br /&#62;
4 - Red Flashing&#60;br /&#62;
5 - Orange&#60;br /&#62;
6 - Orange Flashing&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;7-127 Are all green.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If you got this far the rest should be simple to decode.
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			<title>Midi confusion with APC40</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>meta_kid</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Where's the challenge in that!?  haha.&#60;br /&#62;
That Ohm looks quite impressive as well, I can't wait to test one out.&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>Midi confusion with APC40</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>pnyboer</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Ok, not a helpful response, but I can't contain myself:&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;a href=&#34;http://lividinstruments.com/hardware_ohm64.php&#34;&#62;http://lividinstruments.com/hardware_ohm64.php&#60;/a&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
It's very easy to figure out how to control the LEDs. Max patches aplenty are provided.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Pete.
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			<title>Midi confusion with APC40</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Danny P</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I myself just started using the APC40 in Max, I am starting to work with midi messages from simple midiin and ctlin objects. It is simple enough to figure out how to decode received messages from the APC in Max, but I am really curious how to send it messages as well, such as to access the clip launch buttons and be able to control them in a &#38;quot;Monome&#38;quot; type manner. Any suggestions as to how I could find out this sort of information?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#38;lt;table border=&#34;0&#34; align=&#34;center&#34; width=&#34;90%&#34; cellpadding=&#34;3&#34; cellspacing=&#34;1&#34;&#38;gt;&#38;lt;tr&#38;gt;&#38;lt;td class=&#34;SmallText&#34;&#38;gt;&#38;lt;b&#38;gt;meta_kid wrote on Sat, 30 May 2009 14&#38;#58;01&#38;lt;/b&#38;gt;&#38;lt;/td&#38;gt;&#38;lt;/tr&#38;gt;&#38;lt;tr&#38;gt;&#38;lt;td class=&#34;quote&#34;&#38;gt;I have been working with my APC40 in preparation for Max4Live's release (whenever that will be).  In the mean time I have stumbled up something that confused me.  I plugged my APC40 in and fired up MidiOx, and noticed when going through the buttons/faders that the APC40 makes heavy use of both the Data1 and Data2 messages for each button combination. It does not seem like these are sysex/rtm/etc. messages, but multiple data inputs per CC/note on/note off events.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My question is: How does max handle these types of data?  Does midiin distinguish between the two?  I have searched the forums/google/midi spec but have had no luck so far?  Any help would be greatly appreciated. &#60;br /&#62;&#38;lt;/td&#38;gt;&#38;lt;/tr&#38;gt;&#38;lt;/table&#38;gt;&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>Midi confusion with APC40</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 18:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>meta_kid</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I have been working with my APC40 in preparation for Max4Live's release (whenever that will be).  In the mean time I have stumbled up something that confused me.  I plugged my APC40 in and fired up MidiOx, and noticed when going through the buttons/faders that the APC40 makes heavy use of both the Data1 and Data2 messages for each button combination. It does not seem like these are sysex/rtm/etc. messages, but multiple data inputs per CC/note on/note off events.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My question is: How does max handle these types of data?  Does midiin distinguish between the two?  I have searched the forums/google/midi spec but have had no luck so far?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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