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1. 

   vichug

   hi,
   i'm a nearly complete newbie in maxMSP so please don't mind if if that question seems obvious :)
   my problem is, i would like to connect audio coming out from one outlet of a matrix~ object, and processed in other msp objects ; in an inlet of the same matrix~. My point is, in fact, not creating an audio loop, but being able to process signal through different treatments and in parallel or in serial as i want and using matrix~ object (it seemed the more practical for what i'm seeking).
   So as you may know, if you take one signal thread from a matrix~ outlet and connect it back to an inlet of the same object, it results in the matrix~ object crashing, even if you didn't loop that signal (in the matrix object) or if you added processing inbeetween.
   And my question is, is there a way to "force" connection ? what does it give with send~ and receive~, or a delay line ? i bet those are not ideal solutions...

   anyway thanks for the help by advance, and please excuse my poor english, let me know if that's hardly understandable...

   7 months ago
2. 

   vichug

   hm also i started searching the forum and found something related to that question here : http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=23638

   again please don't mind if that's some frequently asked question, or resolved already... in fact it's not easy to find things related to that matter cause matrix is a very common term. it means many sorting to do...

   7 months ago
3. 

   Gregory Taylor

   I use send~ and receive~ pairs in any situation with matrix~ objects where routing an audio signal through a series of effects might result in a feedback loop. It works just fine.

   7 months ago
4. 

   Luke Hall

   The delay with [send~] and [receive~] is pretty much the ideal solution. There is no way to connect an outlet of [matrix~] back to an inlet without creating one vector of delay due to the way MSP works. Check out my patch in the thread you linked to, replace the subpatches with your modular effects and off you go!

   lh

   7 months ago
5. 

   vichug

   hi,
   thanks for that answer, from the first glance i gave to the other topic, i had seen the send~ receive~ solution, but i thought that maybe it was like, a bricolage, first approach, maybe not an elegant enough solution and might have lead to other problems :) or whatever. it seems not. anyway thanks again.

   (by the way is that normal that i have to manually add a max5 patcher header code and a " } " character at the end when i paste a compressed patcher file from those forums ?)

   7 months ago
6. 

   seejayjames

   Don't add the } at the end, it should end with
   -------end_max5_patcher--------

   The { and } come up when reading the actual (un-compressed) JSON code. You can take a look at it if you copy your patch (regular Copy), then open a New Text and paste. That's the real code for your patch, but we don't use it on the Forums because it's long...

   7 months ago
7. 

   vichug

   yes yes, when i copy a patch here, i do copy the -------end_max5_patcher--------
   code and the beginning thing as well, still i need to add the } manually, and a header too, or i have parsing errors. Anyway nevermind, it's not really important.
   And i tried the send~ receive~ trick, it works perfectly so far, so thanks :)

   7 months ago
8. 

   vichug

   ok
   i solved it myself
   i tried to paste things here in a text patcher file, then save with a .maxpat extension, rather than directly pasting it into an actual max5 new patcher.

   7 months ago

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