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4 Channel Sound Card?

August 27, 2008 | 3:54 pm

Hello, this doesn’t directly pertain to Max, but it does pertain to making/playing music so I thought the good people of this forum would still be able to help out.

I’m in the process of building a patch for live sets and have recently realized the importance of having 4 audio channels to be able to audition components of the mix before introducing them to the set. I know nothing about sound cards and was hoping people here could help me out w/ advice, suggestions, etc.

Right now, I’m just using the Core Audio soundcard that came with my Mac ProBook, OS X 10.4.11. I’ve done a little bit of browsing, and understand that there’s external and internal soundcards. What’s the difference exactly? Will an external sound card allow me to plug directly into a monitor system, or will I need another box (mixer?) to do that? Or does it depend on the sound card?

Pretty much, I’ve been composing electronic music for a little over a year, but haven’t played any live shows so know nothing about how a live setup works, just that I will need to A) Audition material through headphones before bringing it into the mix, and B)Connect to a stereo system.

Thanks!


August 27, 2008 | 4:58 pm

Look at the Presonus Firebox. Inexpensive, reliable. 4 in, 6 out. Good
mic pres on channels 1&2. Quite a few maxers use them.

David

On 27 Aug 2008, at 16:54, Kyle Kaplan wrote:

>
> Hello, this doesn’t directly pertain to Max, but it does pertain to
> making/playing music so I thought the good people of this forum
> would still be able to help out.
>
> I’m in the process of building a patch for live sets and have
> recently realized the importance of having 4 audio channels to be
> able to audition components of the mix before introducing them to
> the set. I know nothing about sound cards and was hoping people here
> could help me out w/ advice, suggestions, etc.


August 27, 2008 | 5:29 pm

I know this seems a bit more expensive, but also have a look at the MOTU 828 mk3.

This has 8 physical ins and outs, also you can add on ADAT and SPDIF, also has 2 more inserts in the front of the rack.

It also has DSP effects and can be used as a separate mixer without having to connect to a computer. The connect to the computer is by firwire and also can be daisy chained with another 828

I had a MK2, and have just ordered an MK3 and i cant wait.

Motu are amazing with interfaces, but are more strong with OS X than PC. Because PC’s are always changing with all its updates.

Its worth having a look

Im not saying you should just go for this. But for the money and the extras that are with it, it is impossible to not take it. Thats why i love the Motu, it gives me everything.

You should have a try of one, and do some reading on it, pretty much everywhere swears by them


August 27, 2008 | 5:38 pm

>
>Right now, I’m just using the Core Audio soundcard that came with my
>Mac ProBook, OS X 10.4.11. I’ve done a little bit of browsing, and
>understand that there’s external and internal soundcards. What’s the
>difference exactly?

internal are to put INSIDE of a computer – you can not do this on a macbook pro

>Will an external sound card allow me to plug directly into a monitor
>system, or will I need another box (mixer?) to do that? Or does it
>depend on the sound card?
>

depends – To be able to plug a sound card directly ina sound system
(I mean sound system as in PA – not home stereo) you want to have the
outputs balanced – either on "stereo jacks" or XLR.

cheaper sound cards will have unbalanced outs (on jacks or RCA) – and
you’ll need either a mixer or at least DI boxes

(I use RME sound cards – expensive but very good – and yes, I like to
plug them directly in the PA amps)

best

kasper

Kasper T. Toeplitz
noise, composition, bass, computer

http://www.sleazeArt.com

http://www.myspace.com/sleazeart


August 27, 2008 | 7:14 pm

thanks for the bits of wisdom. looking over these options, ill probably go with the PreSonus since I’m a poor student, but it’s good to know the kind of quality out there. Both the MOTU and the RME look pretty slick.


August 28, 2008 | 5:00 am

Yeah, the PreSonus is very nice for the price.
I used a few PreSonus’ in my time in studios and bedroom studios, very good and work well on both PC & Mac.

I myself and a poor worker, its taken me a while to save up for my MK3.

You wont be disappointed



FP
August 28, 2008 | 7:04 pm

MOTU Traveler and UltraLite-mk3 are ok for this kind of job.
but yes RME… :-)

elt@altern.org
http://pan-etc.net


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