64bits and sloooooooow externals update ...

That object should sooooo be standard. I've switched to a different way of parsing OSC messages to be rid of this kind of 'useless' dependency.

Don't remember who/where I got it from, but it does everything I need natively.

But yes, none of the externals I use have been 64bit-ified yet.

Alex Harker externals, sigmund, Bach externals.

I think OSC-Route has been ported for a few weeks:

http://cnmat.berkeley.edu/downloads

Well, I understand that it's so cool when one's favourite externals are updated quickly, features are added, bugs are fixed... Right? However, many of these tools are developed by people who do this in their free times, as a contribution to the community. In my case, with The sadam Library, I've spent hundreds (if not thousands) of hours since the first release to expand it with new externals and to port them to platforms that I don't even use (eg. Windows, PowerPC). On the other hand, although the library has been downloaded approx. 1000 times so far, only two of my users found it important to send a donation until now (which I really appreciated, BTW - thank you again, Terry and Timothée). I'm sure that there are tools (eg. the CNMAT objects) which are maintained by institutions who can afford the `luxury' of spending some of their developer resources on free projects to gain some reputation. However, for independent developers, this is not always the case. So, perhaps you should really contact those developers who did a great job for you and offer them some donation if you really need a specific external for your favourite platform; otherwise, I guess you should be a little patient and wait until we find our free times to do the job. In my case, since I'm working with Max 5, it will take some time until I update my objects for Max 6, and specially, for Max 64bit...

Cheers,
Ádám

hum. we are all at the same place :)

@MZED: indeed, I didn't find those. They are working fine !!

Just saying, I didn't complain about this here. Just wanted to know if, especially, I could contribute myself.

Anyway, taking our time is important.
But if I cannot support myself my stuff, I often give part of sources I order people can are their stuff with them.
Of course I cannot myself do that for every, too.

Is that the Max community becomes consumerist more and more ?

Good point, I also feel the same from time to time, although I also feel that I am also becoming more consumerist with time, unfortunately. Since the depression started and cultural budgets were severely cut in most places of the world, I think that this kind of more money-oriented behaviour is a somewhat natural (although very unfortunate) reaction. :-(

To Julien Bayle: in my particular case, the codebase of The sadam Library overlaps unfortunately in a great way with codes of my paid projects that help funding my studies. Although I am usually very open to share my code with other developers in private (with people who would use it to learn something and not to do some copy-paste coding), I am not in the position of simply releasing my code for the public. If people contracting me for nasty Max-externals would have copy-paste access to my codebase, then why would any of them pay me?

I'm living with my own art & creation & courses so I know that context too.

I don't understand the thing about consumerist.

Anyway, pushing something on github in several hours that will be totally open-source that time.

speaking on behalf of a 64-bit max user who does not know C (or javascript for that matter) and NEEDS to spend his time making music, due to various 'deliverables' - I chose to make the switch to 64 bit for a few reasons - well aware of the fact that many externals i love would not be available.

I'm also fully comfortable with this. As a contributor to the monome forums (well i've made ONE whole app, but still, i was learning max and it took 3 weeks of tutorials and trial and error) I also know what it's like to pour your heart into something, anything, be it a patch, external, piece of music, or a kick drum made from scratch, and choose to give it away.

I gave my monome patch away because I wanted to support the community. I'm not able to do that with max externals because, frankly, I don't allow myself the time to code when i have to be making tracks (dance music, occasional tv stuff). I can wait for my beloved externals, and in the meantime, Live 9 runs a hell of a lot better when it can use all my RAM!

so us blue-collar patchers, we want those externals, but take your time, coders, we know you have lives, and that's fine for us.

this software natively provides practically everything i need, (though i LOVE LOVE LOVE max toolbox) and if anyone feels limited without some external, remember that limiting one's self is often the best way to get creative.

On behalf of $ADAM - i love your externals, I didn't pay for them, i have a good reason, but for the record I understand where you're coming from. I poured my heart and soul into an EP of music that i gave away for donations on bandcamp (when i could have easily sent it to some decent labels without a doubt) hundreds of downloads - I got $10. shit happens, but when i get back from my next bout of gigs, i'll donate, buddy :)