steffensen

http://lab.andre-michelle.com/wavepole-synthesizer

This sounds really tasty, and it doesnt seem that complicated to do, but still, i cannot get it right.

Ill post my patch up as soon as i have something worth posting.

a-little-polefm-challenge-for-you

I think you could make something similar but better by doing feedback fm. Ill post a patch later if I remember but there should be a thread on the list if you search.

I think you could make something similar but better by doing feedback fm.  Ill post a patch later if I remember but there should be a thread on the list if you search.


Yes, fm feedback is something i considered myself, ive been trying to use 2 op's together for the "attraction" part, and having the result feeding back into the second op (perhaps i should feed back into the first op instead..). Adjusting the level of the feedback sounds similar to the pole part of the wavepole anyway.

I still havent figured out the rate part however.

Its like the feedback level stands for both the rate and pole part, if i could split them up somehow..

And yes, it sounds like noise is modulating things here, but from what i understand he isnt using noise, wich makes me curious on how this is made.

This is what i have so far, i modulated the amplitude for the Rate part, and i think im on a right path here.

once you up the fm feedback index things quickly turn to noise.. there may not be white noise in his model but the effects are easily achived.

I don't think hes using tremlo/ringmod for the rate property, I think the rate is actually a playback rate of a short bit of noise sampled in a buffer which is controlling the pitch.

once you up the fm feedback  index things quickly turn to noise.. there may not be white noise in his model but the effects are easily achived.

I don't think hes using tremlo/ringmod for the rate property, I think the rate is actually a playback rate of a short bit of noise sampled in a buffer which is controlling the pitch.


oh heheh this may be why nobody else responded and why I had a skewed vision of what this actually is:

At any rate if you read that description now taht IM listening on an intel its totally different and this is a complex model that your not going to get through fm or anything else for that matter, its a complex algorythm made from scratch which does exactly what it says.

This name is an invention, but this is how it works. There are n poles (3-64), which are attracted by force to their neighboor. By increasing the number of poles, the computed sound gets more complex with a lot of harmonics, where the waveform oscillate itself by the pole forces. If you be patient and try out some combination you can find some very nice atmospheric sounds. The amplitude between the poles is cubic interpolated.

Note: Changing the poles count affects crack sounds, since the waveform resets without respect to any zero crossings. Tipp: You can click the slider bar to change the poles count without sliding. Update: Added rate parameter, which affects the speed of each pole.

 At any rate if you read that description now taht IM listening on an intel its totally different and this is a complex model that your not going to get through fm or anything else for that matter, its a complex algorythm made from scratch which does exactly what it says.

This name is an invention, but this is how it works. There are n poles (3-64), which are attracted by force to their neighboor. By increasing the number of poles, the computed sound gets more complex with a lot of harmonics, where the waveform oscillate itself by the pole forces. If you be patient and try out some combination you can find some very nice atmospheric sounds. The amplitude between the poles is cubic interpolated.
Note: Changing the poles count affects crack sounds, since the waveform resets without respect to any zero crossings. Tipp: You can click the slider bar to change the poles count without sliding. Update: Added rate parameter, which affects the speed of each pole.


Man, did anyone check out the rest of this guys stuff? Great work.

On Sep 1, 2007, at 10:37 AM, Nicholas C. Raftis III wrote:

> oh heheh this may be why nobody else responded and why I had a 

> skewed vision of what this actually is:

> At any rate if you read that description now taht IM listening on 

> an intel its totally different and this is a complex model that 

> your not going to get through fm or anything else for that matter, 

> its a complex algorythm made from scratch which does exactly what 

> This name is an invention, but this is how it works. There are n 

> poles (3-64), which are attracted by force to their neighboor. By 

> increasing the number of poles, the computed sound gets more 

> complex with a lot of harmonics, where the waveform oscillate 

> itself by the pole forces. If you be patient and try out some 

> combination you can find some very nice atmospheric sounds. The 

> amplitude between the poles is cubic interpolated.

> Note: Changing the poles count affects crack sounds, since the 

> waveform resets without respect to any zero crossings. Tipp: You 

> can click the slider bar to change the poles count without sliding. 

> Update: Added rate parameter, which affects the speed of each pole.

> -=ili!ili=- www.Axiom-Crux.net -=ili!ili=-

Man, did anyone check out the rest of this guys stuff?  Great work.

>
> oh heheh this may be why nobody else responded and why I had a  
> skewed vision of what this actually is:
>
> "Caution: Old Macs may produce noise."
>
>  At any rate if you read that description now taht IM listening on  
> an intel its totally different and this is a complex model that  
> your not going to get through fm or anything else for that matter,  
> its a complex algorythm made from scratch which does exactly what  
> it says.
>
> This name is an invention, but this is how it works. There are n  
> poles (3-64), which are attracted by force to their neighboor. By  
> increasing the number of poles, the computed sound gets more  
> complex with a lot of harmonics, where the waveform oscillate  
> itself by the pole forces. If you be patient and try out some  
> combination you can find some very nice atmospheric sounds. The  
> amplitude between the poles is cubic interpolated.
> Note: Changing the poles count affects crack sounds, since the  
> waveform resets without respect to any zero crossings. Tipp: You  
> can click the slider bar to change the poles count without sliding.  
> Update: Added rate parameter, which affects the speed of each pole.
>
> --
> -=ili!ili=-  www.Axiom-Crux.net  -=ili!ili=-

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Ah typical. Such a great sound, really had my hopes up that ive found some great recepie for a drone machine, finaly. Oh well. :)

go all the way through, it gets soooo good, mario brothers, mode7, tb303, dude is an ultra flash genius, I didn't even know you could do any of thsi with actionscript!

A little pole/fm challenge for you.