snoogynik

I have a simple and very annoying problem with M-AUDIO U-CONTROL UC-33e midi controller in Radial.

Okay - I want to control 8 channels' volume control in Radial with the UC-33e's 8 sliders like a mixer but I only control 1 channel with it and the rest - I can't do.

Well, I will tell you step by step what I am doing so you all don't get confused.

First, I chose UC-33 USB MIDI controller port 1 chan 1 under the midi/control set up in Radial.

Second, I go to Control Map section to open the control panel in Radial. From there, I chose chan_1.mix.gain under the parameter and chose cc and put 7 in the midi cc number section under the controller. Why I chose 7 because on the UC-33e every channel has a slider and three knobs and when I move slider it shows cc 7 - when I tweak the 1st knob, it shows cc 10 - the second knob shows cc 12 - and the third knob shows cc 13. So when I put 7, it communicates with the slider because it is its cc number. So everything is clear I hope until here. (Hopefully) When I move the 1st channel's slider on the UC-33e, the Radial's volume slider also moves up and down - no problem.

For the second channel - I don't know what to do. What I mean by that is this...

I go to the chan_2.mix.gain under the parameter and chose cc again and put 7 in the midi cc number section under the controller but this time when I move the second channel's slider on the UC-33e, the second channel's volume slider doesn't move. I know why because I have to change from chan 1 to chan 2 in the MIDI cc section under the midi/control setup. But when I do that (changing from chan 1 to chan 2) this time, on the UC-33e, the first slider doesn't move the first volume slider of the Radial but the second slider of the UC-33e moves both channel 1 and channel 2 volume sliders up and down in Radial.

On this issue, I don't understand the MIDI cc channels. There must be other solution for this.

I go to the chan_2.mix.gain under the parameter and chose cc again and put 7 in the midi cc number section under the controller but this time when I move the second channel's slider on the UC-33e, the second channel's volume slider doesn't move. I know why because I have to change from chan 1 to chan  2 in the MIDI cc section under the midi/control setup. But when I do that (changing from chan 1 to chan 2) this time, on the UC-33e, the first slider doesn't move the first volume slider of the Radial but the second slider of the UC-33e moves both channel 1 and channel 2 volume sliders up and down in Radial. 

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If you use the same controller number for both channels (7) then the same slider will control both yeah?

You need a separate controller number for each radiaL param you wish to control.

Well, then I have to dig the midi-controller for the different cc numbers.

I have the UC-33e. It's a pretty decent controller. I don't have any time to walk you through it, but the included patch allows you to work with all the knobs, sliders and buttons on preset "4". So on the top left of the UC-33e under "Presets" hit 4, (unless you've gone and changed it) and that should work with the patch. 

I have the UC-33e. It's a pretty decent controller. I don't have any time to walk you through it, but the included patch allows you to work with all the knobs, sliders and buttons on preset "4". So on the top left of the UC-33e under "Presets" hit 4, (unless you've gone and changed it) and that should work with the patch. 
tl;dr check out included patch.


I press the preset 4 but nothing changes. :p

And also, the patch you sent me... with what I am gonna open it? With the max/msp or radial or should I change the format of it from .maxpat to.txt to make radial to read it under read control map from file in the control/map panel?

It's a Max patch. I didn't read your original post thoroughly and immediately thought that you wanted to control objects in Max with the UC-33e, but you do not. 

I know nothing of Radial, but I do know of a great program you can download free from M-Audio called Enigma that allows you to change and revert presets, and see exactly what channel which CC is on.

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=enigma.register

Download it and if you need help with it ask.

It's a Max patch. I didn't read your original post thoroughly and immediately thought that you wanted to control objects in Max with the UC-33e, but you do not. 
I know nothing of Radial, but I do know of a great program you can download free from M-Audio called Enigma that allows you to change and revert presets, and see exactly what channel which CC is on.

Download it and if you need help with it ask.


I didn't even notice this was in the Radial forum! Sorry if I can't help in a more direct way.

I downloaded Enigma and changed 33 Preset number -User Undefined to Global- under the UC-33 Defaults. So I get the new midi cc numbers - like 1st slider's midi cc = 20 and 2nd slider's midi cc = 21 etc...

but now, the radial or any other program doesn't see the UC-33e as a midi controller. I opened the core midi and it looks like shadowed - not in use mode. :p

How can I change the presets to the factory settings so the core midi at least sees it.

So Sorry if I give you a headache. Really Sorry. :(

but now, the radial or any other program doesn't see the UC-33e as a midi controller. I opened the core midi and it looks like shadowed - not in use mode.  :p

So Sorry if I give you a headache. Really Sorry.  :(

It's fine, please stop apologizing. The internet was created for situations like this. ( :

How is the UC-33e connected to your computer? Also, basic info on Software and hardware would help. You mentioned "core midi", which is OS X 10.3 related, if I'm not mistaken.

I use the M-Audio Uno, a 1-In/1-Out USB Bus-Powered MIDI Interface cable which is all I need for the basic stuff I'm doing.

UC-33e is connected to the computer via USB. And my OS is leopard 10.5.1.

The core midi doesn't recognize the UC-33e. I think I changed something in the controller now I have to change it back to the default settings but I don't know how to do that?

You can reset your machine using Enigma, but you will lose any custom presets you have made.

A problem with M-AUDIO U-CONTROL UC-33e