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		<title>Cycling 74  &#187;  Topic: Ableton Live: understands noteout, but note ctlout</title>
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					<title><![CDATA[Ableton Live: understands noteout, but note ctlout]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 22:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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						<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I want to use ordinary Max (not Max for Live) to send MIDI data to some VST synths in Live.  [noteout] is working how I want, but [ctlout] is behaving strangely.  </p>
<p>If I create a [noteout "from MaxMSP 1" 2] object in Max, the track in Live that is set to listen to &#8220;from MaxMSP 1&#8243; on channel 2 responds to it.  The little yellow bar in the track lights up to show it&#8217;s receiving data, and the VST synth on the track makes noise.</p>
<p>If I do the same with [ctlout], creating a [ctlout "fromMaxMSP 1" 2] object in Max, the track&#8217;s yellow bar lights up again in response to incoming data &#8212; but the VST synth does not react to the signals.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to see this for yourself, you don&#8217;t even need to write any code; all you need is the help patches for [ctlout] and [noteout].</p>
<p>Any idea what&#8217;s going on?  I own M4L, and am considering writing an M4L hack that uses OSC to get around the problem, but that really seems like overkill.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Jeff</p>
<p>PS: I&#8217;m using:<br />
MBP running OS 10.6.3<br />
Ableton Live 8.1.3 with M4L<br />
Max/MSP 5.1.4</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Ableton Live: understands noteout, but note ctlout]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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						<p>I think I&#8217;ve determined that the problem is Live, not Max, so I&#8217;m taking this to the other forum.</p>
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