barry threw

Miller Puckette and I are happy to release Bonk3~, and updated version 

of Bonk~. It's pretty configurable, and I find better results with 

this than the previous version. Don't ask me what happened to Bonk2~, 

we're still figuring out how to deal with it emotionally.

For right now it is available on my site at 

, and should be available on Miller's site at some point in the not so 

distant future. There is a make file for pd there as well. Works under 

Max 4 and 5. Source is there because thats how I roll.

The object is complied for Mac UB, and will compile for Windows, 

although I haven't done it. If anyone does, send it over and I will 

include it in the package. My general M.O. is not to care about 

Windows until forced by Adam Smith's invisible hand.

Ted Appel also did some work on this, and Ben Bracken stumbled upon 

the solution to a strange bug I had. Mad props.

Please send me bug reports. There probably are some.

Miller Puckette and I are happy to release Bonk3~, and updated version  
of Bonk~. It's pretty configurable, and I find better results with  
this than the previous version. Don't ask me what happened to Bonk2~,  
we're still figuring out how to deal with it emotionally.

For right now it is available on my site at http://www.barrythrew.com/software/ 
, and should be available on Miller's site at some point in the not so  
distant future. There is a make file for pd there as well. Works under  
Max 4 and 5. Source is there because thats how I roll.

The object is complied for Mac UB, and will compile for Windows,  
although I haven't done it. If anyone does, send it over and I will  
include it in the package. My general M.O. is not to care about  
Windows until forced by Adam Smith's invisible hand.

Ted Appel also did some work on this, and Ben Bracken stumbled upon  
the solution to a strange bug I had. Mad props.

San Francisco, CA
Work: 857-544-3967
Email: bthrew (at) gmail (dot) com
Web: www.barrythrew.com


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I use Bonk v1.3 a lot so thank you for this latest version...

Bonk~ has always been of of my favorite max objects !

the "debouncedecay" (Minimum time (msec) between attacks) parameter 

doesn't seems to work better than in previous version ... : any value 

or maybe I misenderstand how to use this parameter ?..

(macbookpro 2.3ghz / os10.5.3 / maxMSP 5.02)

Thanks for this update !
Bonk~ has always been of of my favorite max objects !

the "debouncedecay" (Minimum time (msec) between attacks) parameter  
doesn't seems to work better than in previous version ... : any value  
 > 0 just makes bonk3~ ouput nothing.
or maybe I misenderstand how to use this parameter ?..

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bonk3~ only ouput a new bang if new attack loudness is > previous 

attack loudness. so very quickly, you reach the maximum and bonk~ stop 

ouputing new value (or you'll probably end by breaking your 

percussion / mic trying to play louder and louder to trig bonk~ !).

I don't think that this behaviour match the description of this 

parameter : "Minimum time (msec) between attacks"

about debouncedecay :
if debouncedecay is set to 1 :
bonk3~ only ouput a new bang if new attack loudness is > previous  
attack loudness. so very quickly, you reach the maximum and bonk~ stop  
ouputing new value (or you'll probably end by breaking your  
percussion / mic trying to play louder and louder to trig bonk~ !).
I don't think that this behaviour match the description of this  
parameter :  "Minimum time (msec) between attacks"

I'm trying to compile the object for windows, but i got an error message :

missing plus~.c file (and plus~.def) in the folder .

I'm trying to compile the object for windows, but i got an error message :
missing plus~.c file (and plus~.def) in the folder .

> Miller Puckette and I are happy to release Bonk3~, and updated version 

> of Bonk~. It's pretty configurable, and I find better results with this 

> than the previous version. Don't ask me what happened to Bonk2~, we're 

> still figuring out how to deal with it emotionally.

And as you are into this bonk~/fiddle~ business, may I ask the question?

As far as I know, both bonk and fiddle~ do a fft on the signal. Would it 

be hard to create a version which would run inside a pfft~? Often I need 

that kind of analysis and have to do an fft on the same signal. To avoid 

to do the fft twice, I could imagine to deliver the fft'ed signal inside 

barry threw schrieb:
> Miller Puckette and I are happy to release Bonk3~, and updated version 
> of Bonk~. It's pretty configurable, and I find better results with this 
> than the previous version. Don't ask me what happened to Bonk2~, we're 
> still figuring out how to deal with it emotionally.

As far as I know, both bonk and fiddle~ do a fft on the signal. Would it 
be hard to create a version which would run inside a pfft~? Often I need 
that kind of analysis and have to do an fft on the same signal. To avoid 
to do the fft twice, I could imagine to deliver the fft'ed signal inside 
a pfft~...

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They aren't needed...the visual C file just isn't correct....that is 

just the template that ships with the max sdk...

you'll have to set up the vc++ to find the requisite files 

yourself...i don't have access to a windows machine and vc without a 

good deal of work, that i'm not going to do because i don't personally 

if you give me like 4 months i'll probably have to eventually, but it 

On Jun 23, 2008, at 6:51 AM, nicolas carriere wrote:

> I'm trying to compile the object for windows, but i got an error 

> missing plus~.c file (and plus~.def) in the folder .

They aren't needed...the visual C file just isn't correct....that is  
just the template that ships with the max sdk...

you'll have to set up the vc++ to find the requisite files  
yourself...i don't have access to a windows machine and vc without a  
good deal of work, that i'm not going to do because i don't personally  
care that much right now.

if you give me like 4 months i'll probably have to eventually, but it  
isn't at the top of my docket.

> Thank's for bonk~ update,
>
> I'm trying to compile the object for windows, but i got an error  
> message :
> missing plus~.c file (and plus~.def) in the folder .
>
> Could you add these files ?
> thank's
>
> nicolas carriere


Yeah, that seems a bit off. Will research.

On Jun 23, 2008, at 3:44 AM, mathieu.chamagne@gmail.com wrote:

> bonk3~ only ouput a new bang if new attack loudness is > previous 

> attack loudness. so very quickly, you reach the maximum and bonk~ 

> stop ouputing new value (or you'll probably end by breaking your 

> percussion / mic trying to play louder and louder to trig bonk~ !).

> I don't think that this behaviour match the description of this 

> parameter : "Minimum time (msec) between attacks"

Yeah, that seems a bit off.  Will research.

> about debouncedecay :
> if debouncedecay is set to 1 :
> bonk3~ only ouput a new bang if new attack loudness is > previous  
> attack loudness. so very quickly, you reach the maximum and bonk~  
> stop ouputing new value (or you'll probably end by breaking your  
> percussion / mic trying to play louder and louder to trig bonk~ !).
> I don't think that this behaviour match the description of this  
> parameter :  "Minimum time (msec) between attacks"
>
> Mathieu
>
> ________________
> Mathieu Chamagne
> mathieu.chamagne@free.fr
>
> http://mathieuchamagne.com
> http://www.maxobjects.com
>
>
>
>


Thats a good idea, but I doubt I get to it for awhile.

Someone else is welcome to tackle that from the source. I would give 

it about 4 months before I can think about it really.

On Jun 23, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

>> Miller Puckette and I are happy to release Bonk3~, and updated 

>> version of Bonk~. It's pretty configurable, and I find better 

>> results with this than the previous version. Don't ask me what 

>> happened to Bonk2~, we're still figuring out how to deal with it 

> And as you are into this bonk~/fiddle~ business, may I ask the 

> As far as I know, both bonk and fiddle~ do a fft on the signal. 

> Would it be hard to create a version which would run inside a pfft~? 

> Often I need that kind of analysis and have to do an fft on the same 

> signal. To avoid to do the fft twice, I could imagine to deliver the 

Someone else is welcome to tackle that from the source. I would give  
it about 4 months before I can think about it really.

> barry threw schrieb:
>> Miller Puckette and I are happy to release Bonk3~, and updated  
>> version of Bonk~. It's pretty configurable, and I find better  
>> results with this than the previous version. Don't ask me what  
>> happened to Bonk2~, we're still figuring out how to deal with it  
>> emotionally.
>
> Thanks for doing this...
>
> And as you are into this bonk~/fiddle~ business, may I ask the  
> question?
>
> As far as I know, both bonk and fiddle~ do a fft on the signal.  
> Would it be hard to create a version which would run inside a pfft~?  
> Often I need that kind of analysis and have to do an fft on the same  
> signal. To avoid to do the fft twice, I could imagine to deliver the  
> fft'ed signal inside a pfft~...
>
> Stefan
>
>
> -- 
> Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
> --_____-----------|--------------
> --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()-------
> -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
> ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
>


I looked where bonk3~'s supposed to be and it's not there anymore:

Fortunately, I found it in my archive but it's OS X UB, of course -- has anyone compiled it for Windows?

I would also find a version of bonk which works in windows and max5 really useful

i found bonk3 via google cache and built a windows version if anyone wants it

can I get the OS X UB version off of anyone? bonk~ is a major component of my patch.

I think that bonk3~ just became bonk1.4 upon release. (1.4 is still mistakenly labeled 1.3 when you load it in the max window, but is 1.4 on the site). I could be wrong about all this.

http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html

I am on OS X 10.5.x and have been using bonk1.4 no problems.

I think that bonk3~ just became bonk1.4 upon release. (1.4 is still mistakenly  labeled 1.3 when you load it in the max window, but is 1.4 on the site). I could be wrong about all this.

I am on OS X 10.5.x and have been using bonk1.4 no problems.


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