[ANN] disis_munger~ 1.3.2 released

Jan 27, 2009 at 5:58pm

[ANN] disis_munger~ 1.3.2 released

Version 1.3.2 is now out in the wild. Includes source, project files, and
binaries for Pd-linux, Max-Win32 (4 and 5), and Max-OSX (4 and 5).

New version fixes stability issues on Max5 (Win32).

disis_munger~ (a.k.a. munger1~) is a flext port of munger~ granulator from
the Percolate library with additional features and enhancements.

Download from:

http://ico.bukvic.net/Max/disis_munger~_latest.zip

Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Composition, Music Technology
Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio
Assistant Co-Director, CCTAD
CHCI, CS, and Art (by courtesy)
Virginia Tech
Dept. of Music – 0240
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
(540) 231-5034 (fax)
ico@vt.edu

http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/

#41960
Jan 27, 2009 at 7:50pm

In the osx folder, the exernal is called “disis.munger~.mxo” and must be called “disis_munger~.mxo”.
Otherwise it’s great ! Thanks.

#149860
Jan 27, 2009 at 8:16pm

Super — thanks!!

#149861
Jan 28, 2009 at 3:59am

Oops, you’re right. I just uploaded new version that fixes this.

Best wishes,

Ico

> —–Original Message—–
> From: maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com [mailto:maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com]
> On Behalf Of Bertrand Fraysse
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:50 PM
> Subject: [maxmsp] Re: [ANN] disis_munger~ 1.3.2 released
>
>
> In the osx folder, the exernal is called “disis.munger~.mxo” and must be
> called “disis_munger~.mxo”.
> Otherwise it’s great ! Thanks.

#149862

m
Jan 28, 2009 at 10:40am

should the object in the help patcher (max4)
say:

disis_munger~ 3000 8 55 nameme

?

otherwise I get a no such object …

Am 28.01.2009 um 04:59 schrieb Ivica Ico Bukvic:

> Oops, you’re right. I just uploaded new version that fixes this.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ico
>
>> —–Original Message—–
>> From: maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com [mailto:maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of Bertrand Fraysse
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:50 PM
>> Subject: [maxmsp] Re: [ANN] disis_munger~ 1.3.2 released
>>
>>
>> In the osx folder, the exernal is called “disis.munger~.mxo” and
>> must be
>> called “disis_munger~.mxo”.
>> Otherwise it’s great ! Thanks.
>

#149863
Jan 28, 2009 at 11:19pm

I’m experiencing some “frustratingly silent mungers”. That is, I can’t seem to get any sound out of it, with any of the presets?

I’m on Max/MSP/jitter 5.05, OSX 10.5.6, Macbook Pro 2,4 ghz core2duo. There are no error messages in the Max window.

#149864
Jan 29, 2009 at 7:14pm

I was wondering, if munger~ is a multichannel granulator,
what does it do when you play it in a 2-channel environment?
Does it spread channels 1-4 evenly across the left side
of the panning space?

#149865
Jan 29, 2009 at 7:42pm

The input stream is mono, the output on the disis_munger~ I think is
hardcoded to 64 channels. The spread is controlled through its parameters.
See help file for more info.

Hope this helps!

Ico

> —–Original Message—–
> From: maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com [mailto:maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com]
> On Behalf Of Anthony Palomba
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:15 PM
> Subject: [maxmsp] Re: [ANN] disis_munger~ 1.3.2 released
>
>
> I was wondering, if munger~ is a multichannel granulator,
> what does it do when you play it in a 2-channel environment?
> Does it spread channels 1-4 evenly across the left side
> of the panning space?

#149866
Jan 29, 2009 at 8:20pm

Not really, the only panning option I see is “descretepan” but
there is nothing that specifies how these eight channels are
panned. For example how do I tell munger I want a particular
grain to output on channel 2?

#149867
Jan 29, 2009 at 8:21pm

It appears that flext externals compiled against Max5 SDK do not work on
Max4 (not sure if this is flext- or MaxSDK-related). For this reason, the
zip file now includes explicit versions of disis_munger~ for Max4 (both OSX
and Win32). Hope this fixes your problem.

Ico

> —–Original Message—–
> From: maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com [mailto:maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com]
> On Behalf Of Lut Lei
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:20 PM
> Subject: [maxmsp] Re: [ANN] disis_munger~ 1.3.2 released
>
>
> I’m experiencing some “frustratingly silent mungers”. That is, I can’t
> seem to get any sound out of it, with any of the presets?
>
> I’m on Max/MSP/jitter 5.05, OSX 10.5.6, Macbook Pro 2,4 ghz core2duo.
> There are no error messages in the Max window.

#149868
Jan 29, 2009 at 10:07pm

Look at the “spatialize” option found in the bottom-right corner of the help
patch. It gives you per-channel resolution.

Ico

> —–Original Message—–
> From: maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com [mailto:maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com]
> On Behalf Of Anthony Palomba
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:20 PM
> Subject: [maxmsp] Re: RE: Re: [ANN] disis_munger~ 1.3.2 released
>
>
> Not really, the only panning option I see is “descretepan” but
> there is nothing that specifies how these eight channels are
> panned. For example how do I tell munger I want a particular
> grain to output on channel 2?
>
>

#149869
Jan 29, 2009 at 11:11pm

Thanks for the reply.

It’s working now. Thank you for a great external!

I think the problem ws that I did some stupid renaming of the files, but in the latest release this wasn’t a problem;)

#149870
Jan 30, 2009 at 10:47am

Hi there,

could anyone shed some (more) light on the issue of grain pitch, and more importantly grain pitch variation and the scale message (pitch sieves)

quite new to granular synthesis and would like to understand it more in depth.

Is it possible to route a continous signal to the grain pitch inlet (e.g. line~) ?

thx a lot, nick

#149871
Jan 30, 2009 at 1:14pm

and another one:

delaylength_ms reports back that the minimum delaylength is 30ms. Does that depend on some other parameter and what’s the reason for that ?

thx nick

#149872
Jan 30, 2009 at 3:42pm

#149873
Jan 30, 2009 at 4:55pm

#149874
Jan 30, 2009 at 5:11pm

This is in part tied to the sampling rate as munger’s smallest buffer is 64
bytes. There is however something weird in that and other allied method that
might be a bug…

Ico

> —–Original Message—–
> From: maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com [mailto:maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com]
> On Behalf Of Nick Laqua
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:14 AM
> Subject: [maxmsp] Re: [ANN] disis_munger~ 1.3.2 released
>
>
> and another one:
>
> delaylength_ms reports back that the minimum delaylength is 30ms. Does
> that depend on some other parameter and what’s the reason for that ?
>
> thx nick

#149875
Jan 31, 2009 at 7:51pm

#149876
Feb 1, 2009 at 2:32am

#149877
Feb 4, 2009 at 4:33am

> This is in part tied to the sampling rate as munger’s smallest buffer is
> 64
> bytes. There is however something weird in that and other allied method
> that
> might be a bug…
>
> Ico
>
> > and another one:
> >
> > delaylength_ms reports back that the minimum delaylength is 30ms. Does
> > that depend on some other parameter and what’s the reason for that ?
> >
> > thx nick

Upon further investigation, I found out that there is indeed a limitation of
the lower delalength_ms limit being 20 x 64bytes. It appears this may be a
leftover from the original munger~ code and for a good reason. In that range
you get pretty much noise anyways, making anything lower than that an
academic exercise at best… That being said, we’ve lowered now limit to 3 x
64 bytes which still leaves a tiny bit of wiggle room for grains to be
varied…

As usual, you can get the external at http://ico.bukvic.net/Max

Hope this helps!

Ico

#149878
Mar 30, 2009 at 1:51am

I get the exact same error using either version of disis_munger~ (max 4 or max 5 compiled version).
munger1~ does load.

Max 5.0.6 on 10.4.11

regards,
Klaas-Jan

Roald Baudoux wrote on Fri, 30 January 2009 16:42
I get this message in Max 5.0.5/MacOS X Intel :

disis_munger~: unable to load object bundle executable
2009-01-30 16:40:09.054 MaxMSP[605] CFLog (21): Error loading /
Applications/Max5/AdditionalExternals/Ivica Ico Bukvic-disis_munger~/
disis_munger~.mxo/Contents/MacOS/disis_munger~: error code 4, error
number 0 (Symbol not found: _usleep$UNIX2003
Referenced from: /Applications/Max5/AdditionalExternals/Ivica Ico
Bukvic-disis_munger~/disis_munger~.mxo/Contents/MacOS/disis_munger~
Expected in: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
)

What’s wrong?

Roald Baudoux

#149879
Apr 29, 2009 at 12:50pm

yeah I got the same error both on max5 ad max4…
any help?

#149880
Aug 21, 2013 at 8:52pm

Any plans to release a new version of disis_munger that is compatible with Max6.1 or higher?

#259607
Aug 21, 2013 at 11:33pm

works fine here with latest max (32bit) on mac

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