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					<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 16:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>nick rothwell / cassiel</dc:creator>

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						<p>If you&#8217;re tired of the rather dull, formal look of number boxes in  <br />
Max/MSP, and want a classic, 1960&#8242;s retro styling, you can now have  <br />
it, courtesy of some jsui programming and the resources of Mike  <br />
Harrison&#8217;s &#8220;Electric Stuff&#8221; site (<a href="http://www.electricstuff.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.electricstuff.co.uk</a>); we  <br />
bring you Nixie tube numericals for your Max patchers, without all  <br />
that messing around with fragile glass and high voltages.</p>
<p>Screen shot, information and download at:</p>
<p>	<a href="http://www.loadbang.net/space/Software/Nixies" rel="nofollow">http://www.loadbang.net/space/Software/Nixies</a></p>
<p>The demo patcher includes your very own Nixie tube clock, yours to  <br />
keep, absolutely free.</p>
<p>
   nick rothwell &#8212; composition, systems, performance &#8212; http:// <br />
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					<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 16:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>vade</dc:creator>

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						<p>hah!</p>
<p>thats hot! &#8211; nice!</p>
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v a d e //</p>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 00:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>iamcomputo@gmail.com</dc:creator>

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						<p>I second that emotion.</p>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 06:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Drsbaitso</dc:creator>

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						<p>mmmm yeah i&#8217;m bathing in nixie tubes as we speak ;)</p>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>nick rothwell / cassiel</dc:creator>

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						<p>
On 10 Jul 2006, at 08:51, binez0r wrote:</p>
<p>> mmmm yeah i&#8217;m bathing in nixie tubes as we speak ;)</p>
<p>Careful &#8211; don&#8217;t electrocute yourself.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll notice that there&#8217;s no user interaction with the Nixie  <br />
displays. This is partly because JSUI doesn&#8217;t take keyboard input,  <br />
but there&#8217;s no reason why I couldn&#8217;t implement some kind of click-and- <br />
drag for digits, if there&#8217;s a usable scheme which makes sense.</p>
<p>Oh, I&#8217;ve also figured out how to render the Nixies in different  <br />
colours&#8230;</p>
<p>	&#8211; N.</p>
<p>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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						<p>> Oh, I&#8217;ve also figured out how to render the Nixies in different colours&#8230;</p>
<p>beside the &#8220;nice&#8221; effect it could be useful to see instantly the <br />
state of certain actions : i frequently use numboxes which go from <br />
blue->white as i narrow the Q of a filter or white->red as i increase <br />
the output volume (and one which goes from blue->white->red->black <br />
when using the litter variable colour noise generator)</p>
<p>best</p>
<p>kasper<br />
&#8211; <br />
  Kasper T. Toeplitz<br />
noise, composition, bass, computer</p>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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						<p>First, nice job, I like it.</p>
<p>Second,</p>
<p>> You&#8217;ll notice that there&#8217;s no user interaction with the Nixie  <br />
> displays. This is partly because JSUI doesn&#8217;t take keyboard input,  <br />
> but there&#8217;s no reason why I couldn&#8217;t implement some kind of click-and- <br />
> drag for digits, if there&#8217;s a usable scheme which makes sense.</p>
<p>Aye, this is a problem.  While I&#8217;ve implemented work-arounds with the key object and the hi object, this might be a rare instance where I would endorse a feature request.  I can see how a js class that polls the keyboard might be a really usefull addition to the jsui world.</p>
<p>In them mean time, it could work well like the number box.</p>
<p>mz</p>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Roman Thilenius</dc:creator>

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						<p>if &#8220;Nixies&#8221; would be a german word (instead of beeing<br />
releated to &#8220;Nick&#8221;) it would translate &#8220;Nilies&#8221; or<br />
&#8220;Nothingies&#8221;.</p>
<p>-110 (maker of  the roxies collection)</p>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Peter Castine</dc:creator>

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					<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 09:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>nick rothwell / cassiel</dc:creator>

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						<p>
On 10 Jul 2006, at 22:09, mzed wrote:</p>
<p>> I can see how a js class that polls the keyboard might be a really  <br />
> usefull addition to the jsui world.</p>
<p>In general, I find keyboard input in Max to be problematic (as a  <br />
user, rather than as a programmer). It&#8217;s OK to have &#8220;select-to-input&#8221;  <br />
like number boxes, since these highlight to indicate that they are  <br />
receiving input, but allowing random objects to get key events sounds  <br />
like a recipe for disaster. (Case in point: a programmer I worked  <br />
with used the keyboard capture object (which I refuse to use, so I  <br />
don&#8217;t even remember its name), with a result that we could never save  <br />
patcher files with names containing the letter L.)</p>
<p>Anyway, it could be hacked by routing keyboard events to a jsui&#8230;  <br />
except that jsui doesn&#8217;t have a no-longer-focussed event.</p>
<p>	&#8211; N.</p>
<p>
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					<dc:creator>nick rothwell / cassiel</dc:creator>

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						<p>
On 10 Jul 2006, at 23:53, Roman Thilenius wrote:</p>
<p>> if &#8220;Nixies&#8221; would be a german word (instead of beeing<br />
> releated to &#8220;Nick&#8221;)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there is any such relation: if one believes the  <br />
Wikipedia, &#8220;Nixie&#8221; comes from &#8220;NIX I&#8221;, an abbreviation of &#8220;Numeric  <br />
Indicator eXperimental No. 1&#8243;.</p>
<p>	&#8211; N.</p>
<p>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Peter Castine</dc:creator>

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						<p>On 11-Jul-2006, at 11:01, Nick Rothwell wrote:<br />
> (Case in point: a programmer I worked with used the keyboard  <br />
> capture objectwith a result that we could never save patcher files  <br />
> with names containing the letter L.)</p>
<p>You mean tv? It&#8217;s Boron-only anyway. The object you don&#8217;t want to use  <br />
nowadays is ice.key .-</p>
<p>But: use active or something to gate when you&#8217;re not the frontmost  <br />
window. If that&#8217;s the UI you want, you have to program for it. Like  <br />
everything else in Max. But you knew that anyway;-</p>
<p>&#8211; P</p>
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					<dc:creator>nick rothwell / cassiel</dc:creator>

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						<p>
On 11 Jul 2006, at 16:09, Peter Castine wrote:</p>
<p>> But: use active or something to gate when you&#8217;re not the frontmost  <br />
> window. If that&#8217;s the UI you want, you have to program for it. Like  <br />
> everything else in Max. But you knew that anyway;-</p>
<p>In a single patcher window I might have several GUI components (be  <br />
they Nixie arrays or whatever). The behaviour I&#8217;d want is to click  <br />
one (and see it highlight), type at it, type RETURN or ENTER to  <br />
register the value (which would also need some kind of visual  <br />
confirmation(*)) and then click elsewhere to de-focus. JSUI doesn&#8217;t  <br />
have keyboard input, and doesn&#8217;t have an event for de-focus.</p>
<p>	&#8211; N.</p>
<p>(*) tricky unless someone can get me a photograph of a &#8220;&#8230;&#8221; Nixie.</p>
<p>
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						<p>On 11-Jul-2006, at 16:42, Nick Rothwell wrote:<br />
> The behaviour I&#8217;d want is to click one (and see it highlight), type  <br />
> at it, type RETURN or ENTER to register the value (which would also  <br />
> need some kind of visual confirmation</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help with the pictures of naiads, but I guess I&#8217;m going to  <br />
plug iCE, which is what we use for this sort of thing over at DSPAudio.</p>
<p>ice.key gives you more flexibility in getting key ups/downs/autokeys  <br />
than the standard Max objects. It will even give you command-keys if  <br />
you want. ice.pump is the object that handles focus; left to its own  <br />
devices it listens to cursor left/right to switch focus, but you can  <br />
patch other conventions, such as return/enter, around it. I would  <br />
like to make it so that you could configure pump to listen to tab/ <br />
return/whatever instead, maybe with an attribute. But no promises or  <br />
dates.</p>
<p>Hope this is of interest.<br />
Best, Peter</p>
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