[ANNOUNCE] rs.delos, a MaxMSP timeline external released

Oct 10, 2011 at 12:01am

[ANNOUNCE] rs.delos, a MaxMSP timeline external released

I’m pleased to announce the immediate release of rs.delos, a flexible timeline editor and player external for MaxMSP 5.

More info and videos: http://arts.lu/roby/index.php/site/maxmsp/rs_delos

Roby

#59227
Oct 10, 2011 at 1:10am

This looks interesting, and directly useful to a project I’ve had on the backburner for a while – my biggest question is, can you save/load timelines as a file?

Would be nice if there was some sort of demo version to try out, so I can see if I can bend it to my needs before I purchase, too. :D

#212770
Oct 10, 2011 at 1:18am

Nearly bought it and then noticed times were in milliseconds. Can it work using a bar/beat/tick representation?

#212771
Oct 10, 2011 at 8:36am

JSON is used to write and read files.

I’ll build a demo version as soon as I’ll find some time.

Concerning bar/beat/tick representation, this is something that is definitely on my todo list.
But I want a system that allows for flexible time signature and tempo changes.
I started working on it but it’s not yet ready, so it did not make it into the initial release.

Thanks for your interest,
Roby

#212772
Oct 10, 2011 at 10:28am

Wow, that looks really impressive!

I’m working on a partially similar project for my thesis – but as a standalone/OSC application …

So I’ve got two questions:
1. How long did it take you to write the whole thing ?
2. Is it “scriptable” ? I mean can the gui commands also be invoked by messages to the external? (Looking at the Undo History, the potential seems to be there…)

Thanks in advance!

#212773
Oct 10, 2011 at 12:04pm

1. How long did it take you to write the whole thing ?

Years… and it’s not even finished ;-)

2. Is it “scriptable” ?

Yes it is.
You can create and insert events into the timeline as well as modify existing events through Max messages.

I’ll have to make a screencast demonstrating it.

Roby

#212774
Oct 10, 2011 at 12:20pm

amazing !!

#212775
Oct 10, 2011 at 12:24pm

there is an other external around, which does nearly the same.
perhapy you should collaborate ;-)

http://www.noteformax.net/data/index.php/en/

it would be great, if cycling74 would include the detonate external in max6.
now we have rs_delos, note~ and detonate.

k.

#212776
Oct 10, 2011 at 2:25pm

I’ve been fortunate enough to be a beta tester for Roby’s rs.delos object, and can say that it is quite amazing. I’ve not yet played with the note~ object referenced above (hope to try it at the Cycling Expo!), but a few nice things about Roby’s are the incredible flexibility for the GUI display, the ability to also embed buffer~’s in the pianoroll (just like any DAW, it can include audio buffers AND note info!!), and cross platform ability. And finally, Roby’s open-ness to suggestions for improvement.

Great job Roby!!

#212777
Oct 10, 2011 at 2:35pm

Amen to that!
I’m afraid I was a bit of a lurker on the beta list, but enjoying the ride nonetheless.
Note~ and the new improved detonate look interesting too, but this is the one that’s really caught my eye.

You wait years for a decent timeline for Max to come along…
cheers
Roger

#212778
Oct 10, 2011 at 3:51pm

OK — I just bought it to play with…..looks like fun.

#212779
Oct 11, 2011 at 6:13pm

Hi,

I just uploaded a demo version of rs.delos.

It’s fully functional with the following constraints:
• Maximum number of tracks: 2
• Maximum timeline length: 10 seconds
• Output stops working after 10 minutes

Download link at the bottom of this page:

http://arts.lu/roby/index.php/site/maxmsp/rs_delos

Have fun,
Roby

#212780
Oct 11, 2011 at 9:47pm

looks interesting, what is the license? (it says you have to read it before you buy it, but I couldn’t find it)

#212781
Oct 11, 2011 at 10:16pm
#212782
Oct 11, 2011 at 10:27pm

clear, thanks (maybe good to add it a link to the word “license” on http://arts.lu/roby/index.php/site/store )

#212783
Oct 11, 2011 at 10:33pm

works fine here.
what browser / platform are you using?

#212784
Oct 11, 2011 at 10:49pm

haha, stupid me, I mistakenly thought the button was to buy the thing… and I wanted to click on the word license in the sentence above, sorry,… just don’t expected that kind of button for that, sorry for the noise

#212785
Oct 11, 2011 at 11:12pm

No problem Timo, I guess there was a problem with the design of my page.
I changed it and it’s probably clearer now.

#212786
Dec 18, 2011 at 10:15am

Hi Roby,
I’ve download your demo version just to check if it’s suiting my needs.
When I load it, the tools don’t appears in the window and I’ve got those messages in Max Window :

file pointer8.png not found
file cursor_pencil32.png not found
file cursor_scissors.png not found
file cursor_pastetube.png not found
file cursor_zoom.png not found
file cursor_pencilBpf32.png not found
file cursor_selectBpf.png not found
file cursor_arrows_leftright.png not found

I’ve noticed that the “Resources” folder that is supposed to contain those files is not present in the Mac version of the object so I’ve tried to copy it from the windows version with no success.
Any idea ?

More :
I am looking for a timeline to trigger sounds when a movie reaches particular frames.
the movie is readed with a varying speed (it is triggered by a bicycle). so I was wondering if a can play delos with some message like “time $1″ rather than just do play and stop.

thank’s for help.

#212787
Dec 31, 2011 at 5:55pm

This is great !
Thanks for your work Roby.

#212788
Jul 29, 2012 at 6:38pm

I have still the same problem as Fixrobert 7 months ago after downloading the Max6 demo for Mac…

#212789
Jul 29, 2012 at 6:39pm

I have still the same problem as Fixrobert 7 months ago after downloading the Max6 demo for Mac…

#212790
Jul 30, 2012 at 1:50am

>>I’m pleased to announce the immediate release of rs.delos, a flexible timeline editor and player external for MaxMSP 5.

Your post indicates it is only for Max 5, but your website shows it is compatible with Max 6 as well.
Very confusing.

#212791
Jul 30, 2012 at 1:52pm

I am using Delos in Max6. It works great, love it!

#212792
Jul 30, 2012 at 1:59pm

I bought it but I was never able to figure out how to use it! The documentation seemed to just define what the pieces were as opposed to how to actually use them. I futzed around with it for a while and then gave up (no time) and was just hoping some beginner tutorials would show up that I could read.

#212793
Aug 5, 2012 at 9:37am

the problem with the missing image files was a path problem. if you download the demo there is a folder “rs.delos put into Cycling ’74:max-externals”, but you don’t have to put this whole folder in your Cycling folder, but only its content

this works: /Applications/Max6/Cycling ’74/3rdparty-externals

this does not work: /Applications/Max6/Cycling ’74/3rdparty-externals/rs.delos put into Cycling ’74:max-externals

#212794
Aug 5, 2012 at 12:09pm

ok, detonate lost the gui
I am testing the demo is too buggy and unpleasant and restrictive.
  the license says no guarantees pay, pay and pay,
introductory price!!!??
Not finished ..
there are things in the list of things to do but “pay” is already solved …

I choose to note ~

#212795
Aug 8, 2012 at 9:43pm

Hi Roby, play around with delos. Very anazing! What is the easiest or best way to send different tracks to different channels?

#212796
Aug 10, 2012 at 5:25pm

Excuse my silly question. First parameter of delos output is tracknumber!

#212797
Oct 13, 2012 at 5:00pm

Hey- great concept- much needed, but I’m having issues getting usable output from it. I’m just using the demo, but sometimes it doesn’t cycle when it is set to, sometimes it misses messages, and the bpf output doesn’t produce reliable results. It seems like the first two issues happen when there’s something else going on in Max, like a message box moving. Maybe it has to do with the transport missing a specific time or something?
The bpf output sometimes kicks out time x coordinates based on the absolute time of the transport, sometimes between 0 and around 100 (but not always), even when the event is much longer. This isn’t affected by changing absolute vs relative bpf time.

I’d love to use this external for a number of applications, but I don’t think I can at this point. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

: j

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