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Any Chance for Printed Docs?

April 19, 2008 | 11:54 pm

Is there any chance of printed documentation? I would definitely pay extra for printed manuals. Has the user base grown enough to make this a possibility for 5?


April 20, 2008 | 2:13 am

The documentation for 5 is entirely integrated. When you
see it and have a chance to start working with 5, it’ll
become pretty obvious why things are as they are.


April 20, 2008 | 4:27 am

Thanks Gregory. I’m not griping about the digital documentation at all. I love the help files, copy & paste are my best friends. The pdfs are nice to have without lugging around books with my notebook. But sometimes it’s nice to flip through pages, and have something catch your eye when you’re away from the computer.

I learn a lot of things and get inspiration in the bathroom many times. haha.


April 20, 2008 | 11:58 am

On 20 Apr 2008, at 05:27, Don K wrote:
> But sometimes it’s nice to flip through pages, and have something
> catch your eye when you’re away from the computer.

You’re perhaps too young to remember the printed documentation that
came with Max 2.0. It was a black ring binder and it was enormous. I
must still have mine somewhere.

– N.

Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited
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April 20, 2008 | 3:28 pm

I still have my huge three ring binder as well as my perfect-bound
paperback manual — both issued by Opcode…
and I still wear my [loadbang] T-shirt proudly — although it is
getting a tad thread-bare
would love to see some new Max T’s

On Apr 20, 2008, at 4:58 AM, Nick Rothwell wrote:

>
> On 20 Apr 2008, at 05:27, Don K wrote:
>> But sometimes it’s nice to flip through pages, and have something
>> catch your eye when you’re away from the computer.
>
> You’re perhaps too young to remember the printed documentation that
> came with Max 2.0. It was a black ring binder and it was enormous.
> I must still have mine somewhere.
>
> – N.
>
>
> Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited
> http://www.cassiel.com
> http://www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom
> http://www.last.fm/music/cassiel
> http://www.reverbnation.com/cassiel
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/cassiel
> http://www.loadbang.net
>


April 20, 2008 | 5:42 pm

The Logic/Notator binder was bigger, I think…

I still like hard copy manuals. I like to read them on the couch, in
bed, on the toilet. Many a software gem was discovered in this way.
But hey, I’m pushing 50. The weird ways of the old…

Op 20-apr-2008, om 13:58 heeft Nick Rothwell het volgende geschreven:

>
> On 20 Apr 2008, at 05:27, Don K wrote:
>> But sometimes it’s nice to flip through pages, and have something
>> catch your eye when you’re away from the computer.
>
> You’re perhaps too young to remember the printed documentation that
> came with Max 2.0. It was a black ring binder and it was enormous.
> I must still have mine somewhere.
>
> – N.
>
>
> Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited
> http://www.cassiel.com
> http://www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom
> http://www.last.fm/music/cassiel
> http://www.reverbnation.com/cassiel
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/cassiel
> http://www.loadbang.net
>


April 20, 2008 | 7:13 pm

Reading on the toilet is an essential part of learning. I have a book on
knots and one on British trees in our downstairs bog, and I can now tie a
bowline and a true lovers’ knot, and tell a hornbeam from a wild service
tree.
My Max 3.x manual has now graduated to a shelf in the studio, but it
certainly did it’s time in the ‘smallest room’. Somehow a laptop just
wouldn’t be the same (and you’d burn your legs with a Ti book anyway) ;-)
Cheers
Roger


April 20, 2008 | 7:27 pm

Nick Rothwell schrieb:
>> But sometimes it’s nice to flip through pages, and have something
>> catch your eye when you’re away from the computer.

Usually there are print/copy shops where you could hand out a pdf and
get a printed flippable printout for less than a officially printed copy
would cost. Its called "print-on-demand"…

> You’re perhaps too young to remember the printed documentation that came
> with Max 2.0. It was a black ring binder and it was enormous. I must
> still have mine somewhere.

Yes, I have that also still, I should put it on ebay, need space…
I also have the Max 3 Manual around…
Anybody who wants it should shout loud winking with some cash… ;-)

Stefan


Stefan Tiedje————x——-
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April 20, 2008 | 7:28 pm

On 20 avr. 08, at 21:13, Roger Carruthers wrote:

> Reading on the toilet is an essential part of learning.

Having a laptop, improved my learning process ;-)

ej


April 20, 2008 | 7:52 pm

On Apr 20, 2008, at 12:28 PM, Emmanuel Jourdan wrote:
> Having a laptop, improved my learning process ;-)

Do you have asbestos thighs?

-C

Chris Muir
cbm@well.com

http://www.xfade.com


April 20, 2008 | 8:01 pm

On 20 avr. 08, at 21:52, Chris Muir wrote:

> Do you have asbestos thighs?

Everything is fine. Thanks for your concern;-)

ej


April 20, 2008 | 9:13 pm

Quote: nick rothwell / cassiel wrote on Sun, 20 April 2008 04:58
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>
> You’re perhaps too young to remember the printed documentation that
> came with Max 2.0. It was a black ring binder and it was enormous. I
> must still have mine somewhere.
>

Well, not all that young, just a newborn babe in the max world, just starting to walk, grab external objects, and know just enough to do damage. I have my own version of the binder manuals that I printed, and used software on the old SGI machines that either came with an encyclopedia set of manuals, or a binder w/ the one tech support guy’s phone number.

I’ll have to look into print on demand, but I hope they can actually do a binding on them and print on both sides. 3 ring binders can get pretty bulky after a point.


April 21, 2008 | 4:59 am

Kim Cascone schrieb:
> would love to see some new Max T’s

with rounded corners please, maybe a loadmess (what a mess) to
distinguish from the Pd folks…

Stefan


Stefan Tiedje————x——-
–_____———–|————–
–(_|_ —-|—–|—–()——-
– _|_)—-|—–()————–
———-()——–www.ccmix.com


April 21, 2008 | 8:55 pm

that’s a great idea! [loadmess] has such wonderful imaginative
connotations! ;)

On Apr 20, 2008, at 9:59 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

> Kim Cascone schrieb:
>> would love to see some new Max T’s
>
> with rounded corners please, maybe a loadmess (what a mess) to
> distinguish from the Pd folks…
>
> Stefan
>
> —
> Stefan Tiedje————x——-
> –_____———–|————–
> –(_|_ —-|—–|—–()——-
> — _|_)—-|—–()————–
> ———-()——–www.ccmix.com
>
>


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