MartinG

Is there a MSP object that functions as an AU (audio Unit) host 

I'm enjoying using the "Synful" Orchestra Synth - hosted by Apple's 

AU Lab - but would prefer to incorporate Synful's outputs into other 

MSP processing. (I'm finding the vst version of Synful often crashes 

Simon Fraser University Burnaby, BC, V5A 1S6

Is there a MSP object that functions as an AU (audio Unit) host  
similar to the way vst~ works?
I'm enjoying using the "Synful" Orchestra Synth - hosted by Apple's  
AU Lab - but would prefer to incorporate Synful's outputs into other  
MSP processing. (I'm finding the vst version of Synful often crashes  
Max.)
Thanks in advance.

P  r  o  f .   M  a  r  t  i  n     G  o  t  f  r  i  t
School for the Contemporary Arts
Simon Fraser University Burnaby, BC, V5A 1S6
604 291 3363    facsimile  604  291 5907

au-host

you would have to go the soundflower (cycling74) or jack osx 

(www.jackosx.com)route in order to get that into max.

Am 29.12.2006 um 18:50 schrieb Martin Gotfrit:

> Is there a MSP object that functions as an AU (audio Unit) host 

> I'm enjoying using the "Synful" Orchestra Synth - hosted by Apple's 

> AU Lab - but would prefer to incorporate Synful's outputs into 

> other MSP processing. (I'm finding the vst version of Synful often 

> Simon Fraser University Burnaby, BC, V5A 1S6

as far as i know, unfortunately not.
you would have to go the soundflower (cycling74) or jack osx  
(www.jackosx.com)route in order to get that into max.

hans w. koch
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www.hans-w-koch.net

> Is there a MSP object that functions as an AU (audio Unit) host  
> similar to the way vst~ works?
> I'm enjoying using the "Synful" Orchestra Synth - hosted by Apple's  
> AU Lab - but would prefer to incorporate Synful's outputs into  
> other MSP processing. (I'm finding the vst version of Synful often  
> crashes Max.)
> Thanks in advance.
>
> P  r  o  f .   M  a  r  t  i  n     G  o  t  f  r  i  t
> School for the Contemporary Arts
> Simon Fraser University Burnaby, BC, V5A 1S6
> 604 291 3363    facsimile  604  291 5907
>
>

> you would have to go the soundflower (cycling74) or jack osx 

> (www.jackosx.com)route in order to get that into max.

I still have the full code of an AU host software.

I think it's time to build an [AU~] for the Mac version of MaxMSP.

> as far as i know, unfortunately not.
> you would have to go the soundflower (cycling74) or jack osx  
> (www.jackosx.com)route in order to get that into max.
> hans

I still have the full code of an AU host software.
I think it's time to build an [AU~] for the Mac version of MaxMSP.
What do you think?
Suggestions?

I for one would be most grateful. soundflower is not always a 

solution when one wants to also incorporate live inputs and _not_ use 

On 29-Dec-06, at 11:05 AM, Philippe GRUCHET wrote:

>> you would have to go the soundflower (cycling74) or jack osx 

>> (www.jackosx.com)route in order to get that into max.

> I still have the full code of an AU host software.

> I think it's time to build an [AU~] for the Mac version of MaxMSP.

I for one would be most grateful. soundflower is not always a  
solution when one wants to also incorporate live inputs and _not_ use  
an external sound interface.

>> as far as i know, unfortunately not.
>> you would have to go the soundflower (cycling74) or jack osx  
>> (www.jackosx.com)route in order to get that into max.
>> hans
>
> I still have the full code of an AU host software.
> I think it's time to build an [AU~] for the Mac version of MaxMSP.
> What do you think?
> Suggestions?
>
> Cheers,
> Philippe
>


>> I think it's time to build an [AU~] for the Mac version of MaxMSP.

I've always been amazed that Max/MSP /doesn't/ support Audio Units! Yes,

I've always been amazed that Max/MSP /doesn't/ support Audio Units! Yes,
please.

Quote: Martin Gotfrit wrote on Fri, 29 December 2006 18:50

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Quote: Martin Gotfrit wrote on Fri, 29 December 2006 18:50
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> Is there a MSP object that functions as an AU (audio Unit) host  
> similar to the way vst~ works?
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Quote: Roman Thilenius wrote on Tue, 22 May 2007 14:21

> otoh synful should work as vst, no? ... 

Yes, since [au~] only hosts 'aufx' plug-ins, nothing else.

However, all the tests done here revealed very low latencies and CPU loads, making MaxMSP (one of) the fastest AudioUnit host software.

Quote: Roman Thilenius wrote on Tue, 22 May 2007 14:21
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> > [au~]
> >
>
> yes exactly.
> otoh synful should work as vst, no? ... 
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Yes, since [au~] only hosts 'aufx' plug-ins, nothing else.
However, all the tests done here revealed very low latencies and CPU loads, making MaxMSP (one of) the fastest AudioUnit host software.

Quote: Philippe Gruchet wrote on Wed, 23 May 2007 01:16

> However, all the tests done here revealed very low latencies and CPU loads, making MaxMSP (one of) the fastest AudioUnit host software.

Quote: Philippe Gruchet wrote on Wed, 23 May 2007 01:16
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> However, all the tests done here revealed very low latencies and CPU loads, making MaxMSP (one of) the fastest AudioUnit host software.

[au~] is lower on CPU than logic pro because it does not

open up silly cocoa view windows, thats the whole trick. :)

[au~] is lower on CPU than logic pro because it does not
open up silly cocoa view windows, thats the whole trick. :)


Quote: Roman Thilenius wrote on Wed, 23 May 2007 14:20

> [au~] is lower on CPU than logic pro because it does not

> open up silly cocoa view windows, thats the whole trick. :)

[au~] displays the custom views of Carbon AU.

Like any other Carbon host, [au~] only displays the generic Carbon view (white background) of Cocoa AU plug-ins.

All the tests I did with AU effects have been done 'AU Lab versus MaxMSP', AU Lab being a Cocoa host. My main concern was about the latencies.

Quote: Roman Thilenius wrote on Wed, 23 May 2007 14:20
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> [au~] is lower on CPU than logic pro because it does not
> open up silly cocoa view windows, thats the whole trick. :)
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[au~] displays the custom views of Carbon AU.
Like any other Carbon host, [au~] only displays the generic Carbon view (white background) of Cocoa AU plug-ins.

i would be suprised if latency is something which depends

on the host but i am always willing to learn.

i would be suprised if latency is something which depends
on the host but i am always willing to learn.

AU Host?