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Hi - I am using a setup in Live with lots of embedded racks as a means of having a number of presets.

I want to use M4L to navigate to these racks so I can use an Novation SL 2 to automatically pick up on the macros within the embedded rack --- without having to actually use the mouse to highlight the rack. (I haven't bought an SL2 yet and want to prove I can navigate racks before I do so)

So far I have tried using the Api device navigator tutorial example - That selects the rack - But the macros it do not show up on Live Control on my Ipad (which they do if I select them with a mouse - So I am assuming it wouldn't show up on a SL.

Does anyone know if what I am doing is possible and how if so what approach i should be using ?

I am already using a very large Bome Midi translator programme and a couple of M4L patches to ensure I never touch a mouse in a live performance.

Hi - I am using a setup in Live with lots of embedded racks as a means of having a number of presets. 

I am already using a very large Bome Midi translator programme and a couple of M4L patches to ensure I never touch a mouse in a live performance.


automatically-navigating-imbedded-racks-does-anyone-think-this-possible

" But the macros it do not show up on Live Control on my Ipad (which they do if I select them with a mouse - So I am assuming it wouldn't show up on a SL."

means as I don't have an Ipad but I can say what you want is possible. At least it is with v 8.2.2.

I have a Remote SL, the bad thing about it, which I wish Novation or Ableton would fix, is it doesn't show up in M4L as a surface so you can't do cool things with it.

I have a patch that when dropped into a channel with an instrument rack, 'latches' on to it and controls it's chain selector with either a mappable nob or up/down buttons. It has 8 nobs which automatically map to the 1st 8 nobs of the 1st device in which ever chain is active. So this is useful for regular midi controllers.

For the SL as a control surface I had to further customise it. I have a device that when dropped into the same channel, it selects(or blue hands) the active chains' first instrument and then locks it to the SL.

The locking bit uses a messy work around in a stand alone MSP patch.

All above are all currently work in progress(but very useable) and still a bit buggy hence I haven't uploaded it to maxforlive.com as yet. I could upload as is if interested.

" But the macros it do not show up on Live Control on my Ipad (which they do if I select them with a mouse - So I am assuming it wouldn't show up on a SL." 

means as I don't have an Ipad but I can say what you want is  possible.  At least it is with v 8.2.2.

I have a patch that when dropped into a channel with an instrument rack, 'latches' on to it and controls it's chain selector with either a mappable nob or up/down buttons.  It has 8 nobs which automatically map to the 1st 8 nobs of the 1st device in which ever chain is active.  So this is useful for regular midi controllers.

For the SL as a control surface I had to further customise it.  I have a device that when dropped into the same channel, it selects(or blue hands) the active chains' first instrument  and then locks it to the SL.

All above are all currently work in progress(but very useable) and still a bit buggy hence I haven't uploaded it to maxforlive.com as yet.  I could upload as is if interested.


Thankyou very much for your reply. It would be very helpful to upload the patch or email it to me. I am still relatively new to Max for Live (although have written one useful patch). Hopefully seeing your patch will at least give me a route into what I want to do. Potentially it will make the SL as a controller much more powerful.

Do you use a SL mk 1 or 2. I have a Mk1 and was looking at getting the SL Mk2 25 as it is meant to be more closely intergrated with Abelton.

Thankyou very much for your reply. It would be very helpful to upload the patch or email it to me. I am still relatively new to Max for Live (although have written one useful patch). Hopefully seeing your patch will at least give me a route into what I want to do. Potentially it will make the SL as a controller much more powerful. 

I have an SL2, it's not that more integrated. Having the LED rings round the endless encoders is a big plus for me. It's essentially given me 8 new nobs as I found the endless encoder on the MK1 unusable. The trade off for this is only having one LCD screen.

I have an SL2, it's not that more integrated. Having the LED rings round the endless encoders is a big plus for me.  It's essentially given me 8 new nobs as I found the endless encoder on the MK1 unusable.  The trade off for this is only having one LCD screen.

http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device.php?id=677

Thanks a lot - It may take awhile to get to grips with - but will be a good start

Automatically Navigating Imbedded Racks - Does anyone think this possible