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					<title><![CDATA[black turns into white&#8230;]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>klaus filip</dc:creator>

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						<p>hello,<br />
we are totally lost in a very basic, very annoiing problem.</p>
<p>jit.qt.movie unpredictably changes the black background-colour of<br />
a simple movie to white.<br />
i did a lot of testing on various machines and its not possible to strip<br />
it down to a patch that always does it wrong.<br />
basically i get the result by simply loading the movie in  <br />
jit.qt.movie.help.</p>
<p>i made a test-patch, that makes the effect a little more often by  <br />
sending<br />
time-messages to jit.qt.movie.</p>
<p><a href="http://lloopp.klingt.org/test/" rel="nofollow">http://lloopp.klingt.org/test/</a><br />
the test-patch there is qttester.pat<br />
the test-movie Running.gif</p>
<p>and some screenshots:<br />
thats the correct look:<br />
<a href="http://lloopp.klingt.org/test/Picture%2028.png" rel="nofollow">http://lloopp.klingt.org/test/Picture%2028.png</a><br />
(the movie is an animated gif with 8 frames like this)<br />
and the thing i am talking about is, that now and then the output is  <br />
like that:<br />
<a href="http://lloopp.klingt.org/test/Picture%2027.png" rel="nofollow">http://lloopp.klingt.org/test/Picture%2027.png</a><br />
or<br />
<a href="http://lloopp.klingt.org/test/Picture%2026.png" rel="nofollow">http://lloopp.klingt.org/test/Picture%2026.png</a><br />
sometimes i get a totally white frame.</p>
<p>please, if somebody saw things like that already, i would be very  <br />
pleased to get a hint<br />
what might be wrong, and how to workaround.</p>
<p>(i tried exporting into several formats, sometimes that makes it  <br />
better, but<br />
then after a while, or after time-messages with some more cpu the  <br />
same thing happens&#8230;)</p>
<p>thanks for your time<br />
klaus</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: black turns into white&#8230;]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Falk</dc:creator>

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					<title><![CDATA[Re: black turns into white&#8230;]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>vade</dc:creator>

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						<p>Thats odd. I see you are loading a Gif animation. Does it have an  <br />
alpha? try loading it into Image Ready and re-saving it. Perhaps the  <br />
gif is messed up. Ive run sprites through jit.qt.movie with alphas  <br />
just fine &#8211; although they were converted to a QT movie with animation  <br />
codec.</p>
<p>is it any movie/gif sprite, or just that specific movie?</p>
<p>does quicktime player proper show those issues?</p>
<p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: black turns into white&#8230;]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>klaus filip</dc:creator>

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						<p>On Mar 8, 2006, at 7:14 PM, vade wrote:</p>
<p>> Thats odd. I see you are loading a Gif animation. Does it have an  <br />
> alpha?<br />
no<br />
> try loading it into Image Ready and re-saving it. Perhaps the gif  <br />
> is messed up.<br />
yes, as i said resaving or making a mov helps at first, but then when  <br />
having it in a more computing<br />
environment the bug is back again.<br />
this animated gif is just giving me the wrong 255s more often.</p>
<p>i know, the worst thing about it, is that its not always reproduceable.<br />
(eg my machine has qt 7.0.4 and another one with qt 6 did not show  <br />
the same bug)<br />
> Ive run sprites through jit.qt.movie with alphas just fine &#8211;  <br />
> although they were converted to a QT movie with animation codec.<br />
><br />
> is it any movie/gif sprite, or just that specific movie?<br />
it is with several movies, although they all came from the same source.<br />
><br />
> does quicktime player proper show those issues?<br />
yes</p>
<p>thanks anyway<br />
klaus</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Falk</dc:creator>

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					<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Joshua Kit Clayton</dc:creator>

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						<p>
FWIW, we don&#8217;t do anything special w/r/t different codecs. So this  <br />
problem sounds specific to QT&#8217;s GIF decompression. I would recommend  <br />
converting to another alpha channel supporting codec like Animation,  <br />
TIFF, or PNG, which should work well in Jitter.</p>
<p>-Joshua</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 21:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>klaus filip</dc:creator>

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						<p>thank you all,<br />
i try with tiff now, and so far the white days are over.<br />
best<br />
klaus</p>
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