blocking-signals

Quote: f.e wrote on Thu, 16 March 2006 09:34

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> related to my problem with using line or line~, i'll rewrite the patch 

> with this last one. But line~, like all MSP objects, still sends its 

It's a timing issue, your gate is closing before snapshot has done its job. See:

or you could try lp.endoftheline~ from the Litter collection.

Quote: f.e wrote on Thu, 16 March 2006 09:34
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> Hello,
>
> related to my problem with using line or line~, i'll rewrite the patch 
> with this last one. But line~, like all MSP objects, still sends its 
> final value after the ramp is done.

where's the lp.endoftheline~ ? i'm a Litter Pro user, but i can't find 

Thanks for the reply. Yes, it's a timing issue (i've made a test with 

capture~ meanwhile, and the 1. and the 0. are there).

But the problem now is : when line~ is done, the gate~ is closed but 

still sends a 0. or a 1. !! So, i'd like to figure out :

A- how to make it shut the fuck up (if another line~ do another job in 

the same destination, it's useless necause of this persistant signal),

B - how to keep the last value on if i want...

Easy to make it in max or will i have to do this in C ?

ps: forget about my Clipboard new discovered funtionnality... you can do 

where's the lp.endoftheline~ ? i'm a Litter Pro user, but i can't find 
this one...

Thanks for the reply. Yes, it's a timing issue (i've made a test with 
capture~ meanwhile, and the 1. and the 0. are there).

But the problem now is : when line~ is done, the gate~ is closed but 
still sends a 0. or a 1. !! So, i'd like to figure out :
A- how to make it shut the fuck up (if another line~ do another job in 
the same destination, it's useless necause of this persistant signal),
B - how to keep the last value on if i want...

ps: forget about my Clipboard new discovered funtionnality... you can do 
this without ! :-%


Generally speaking, you can't stop signal flow, because it will 

interrupt the dac~. You can use sah~ (sample and hold) to make it 

continue sending the last value that you sampled, however. A steady 

stream of 0's is silence, so you don't need to get rid of that 

Generally speaking, you can't stop signal flow, because it will 
interrupt the dac~.   You can use sah~ (sample and hold) to make it 
continue sending the last value that you sampled, however.  A steady 
stream of 0's is silence, so you don't need to get rid of that 
necessarily.

Quote: Peter Castine wrote on Thu, 16 March 2006 12:55

> > where's the lp.endoftheline~ ? i'm a Litter Pro user, but i can't 

dude, there is a litter for everything, didn t you know that ?

Quote: Peter Castine wrote on Thu, 16 March 2006 12:55
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> On 16-Mar-2006, at 19:02, f.e wrote:
> > where's the lp.endoftheline~ ? i'm a Litter Pro user, but i can't  
> > find this one...

LOL.
dude, there is a litter for everything, didn t you know that ?


Could you send a sah~ example ? (the help file is a catastrophe : /"When 

the control makes a transition* from being at or below a the trigger 

value to being above the trigger value*, the input is sampled and its 

current value is output until another control transition occurs and the 

input is sampled again."/ Is it supposed to mean something ?!)

Could you send a sah~ example ? (the help file is a catastrophe : /"When 
the control makes a transition* from being at or below a the trigger 
value to being above the trigger value*, the input is sampled and its 
current value is output until another control transition occurs and the 
input is sampled again."/ Is it supposed to mean something ?!)

"When the control makes a transition* from being at or below a the 

trigger value to being above the trigger value*, the input is sampled 

and its current value is output until another control transition 

"When the control makes a transition* from being at or below a the  
trigger value to being above the trigger value*, the input is sampled  
and its current value is output until another control transition  
occurs and the input is sampled again."

Think of phasor~ as a clock driving sah~. (though you could use ANY 

Every time the signal on the right inlet goes from below to above the 

threshold value (i.e. for sah~ 0.01 that would be 0.01) it takes a 

snapshot of the left inlet and holds that until the next time it's 

triggered. (it's actually the first value in the current signal 

If you use a phasor~ on the right inlet, you get a very rhythmically 

regular snap-shotting of the left inlet. If you use rand~ 5 (for 

instance), you get something less regular...

|        rand~ 5. (try phasor~ 5 here as well)

Think of phasor~ as a clock driving sah~.  (though you could use ANY 
signal)

Every time the signal on the right inlet goes from below to above the 
threshold value (i.e. for sah~ 0.01 that would be 0.01) it takes a 
snapshot of the left inlet and holds that until the next time it's 
triggered.  (it's actually the first value in the current signal 
vector, NOT the current value, IIRC)

If you use a phasor~ on the right inlet, you get a very rhythmically 
regular snap-shotting of the left inlet.  If you use rand~ 5 (for 
instance), you get something less regular...

rand~ 0.2
|
*~ 200
|
+~ 400
|	
|		rand~ 5. (try phasor~ 5 here as well)
|		|
sah~  0.01
|
cycle~
|
dac~

And you can tell easily if its a fake or not, litter names have to sound 

like litter, something like lp.pizzie, otherwise they are not 

original... lp.fuzzy f.e. would be already too much realworld, though it 

And you can tell easily if its a fake or not, litter names have to sound 
like litter, something like lp.pizzie, otherwise they are not 
original... lp.fuzzy f.e. would be already too much realworld, though it 
would fit into his collection...

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mmm... well. Can't see why it was supposed to be that fun... I *knew* 

it was not a good idea to try to make funny stupid joke before first 

Anyway, thanks Peter. The help patch was more clear after your 

mmm... well. Can't see why it was supposed to be that fun... I *knew*  
it was not a good idea to try to make funny stupid joke before first  
coffee ;-)

Anyway, thanks Peter. The help patch was more clear after your  
explanations. At least, after coffee...

Waouhhhhhh ! Great idea Stefan ! I never thought about this : f.e = for 

example ! What a super name for a band ! I'll dedicace this one for you...

Waouhhhhhh ! Great idea Stefan ! I never thought about this : f.e = for 
example ! What a super name for a band ! I'll dedicace this one for you...

blocking signals