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					<title><![CDATA[[bpatcher] Layering&#8230;]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Brian H.</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hi,<br />
I have a patch which has nested [bpatchers].  Is there a way to access the inlets/outlets on a lower layer from a top layer?  In other words, I&#8217;d like to connect one of these bpatchers 2-3 layers down directly to something on the top layer.</p>
<p>I know I can create inlets/outlets in all bpatchers to basically &#8216;drill&#8217; into them, but I&#8217;m wondering if there&#8217;s another, more direct technique?  I&#8217;d like to avoid send/receive for now, but if I have to use it, OK.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Brian</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: [bpatcher] Layering&#8230;]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>LoneMonad aka don malone</dc:creator>

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						<p>take a look at<br />
[value]<br />
[pvar]<br />
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[pv]</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: [bpatcher] Layering&#8230;]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Chris Muir</dc:creator>

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						<p>
On Dec 14, 2008, at 5:59 PM, Brian Heller wrote:<br />
> I know I can create inlets/outlets in all bpatchers to basically  <br />
> &#8216;drill&#8217; into them, but I&#8217;m wondering if there&#8217;s another, more direct  <br />
> technique?  I&#8217;d like to avoid send/receive for now, but if I have to  <br />
> use it, OK.</p>
<p>
If your patch uses the pattr system, you can use it to address  <br />
parameters at any level.</p>
<p>- C</p>
<p>Chris Muir<br />
<a href="mailto:cbm@well.com">cbm@well.com</a>	</p>
<p><a href="http://www.xfade.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.xfade.com</a></p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: [bpatcher] Layering&#8230;]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Brian H.</dc:creator>

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						<p>Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.  I didn&#8217;t know about [pvar] which would be great it could talk out of its patcher.  My model for what I&#8217;m doing (a working model of a particular digital mixing console for training) probably requires [send/receive].  But [pattr] is whole new world in Max!  I knew it was used to store &#8216;states&#8217; and patch data, but didn&#8217;t know it was really an entire other system of objects, perfect for multi-layer patches like this.  The good news is that it&#8217;s probably the right tool for the job; The bad news is that learning it means I&#8217;m not as far along as I thought I was.  :)</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Brian</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: [bpatcher] Layering&#8230;]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Brian H.</dc:creator>

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						<p>OK, so I&#8217;m on my way to starting with [pattr] (thanks to Chris Muir&#8217;s examples on his page, which boiled things down nicely).  But in order to get an actual signal from, say 4 [bpatchers] down up to the top level, the best way would be to either use multiple layers of outlets or [send~/receive~], is that right?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Brian</p>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>stefantiedje</dc:creator>

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