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bpatcher popup?

johannotto — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:23:40 +0000

hi,
I can’t find a message (I know the rightclick) to let a bpatcher popup in a new view window. “front” to thispatcher only works within [patcher]. Ideas?

johann

Re: bpatcher popup?

MuShoo — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:54:22 +0000

Assuming you’re in Max5, and have the bpatcher linked to a patch, or have ‘embed patcher in parent’ selected:

Right Click -> Object -> “New View of ”

Re: bpatcher popup?

johannotto — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:10:05 +0000

thank you, but I already know about the rightclick. Isn’t there a corresponding message for bpatcher (like the front to [thispatcher] in a [patcher])?
when the patcher is locked, there’s no way to rightclick a bpatcher….

Re: bpatcher popup?

MuShoo — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:41:06 +0000

Ah, I misunderstood. As far as I can tell from a quick look at the documentation, it’s not possible to make a new view programatically:

“It’s important to note that views are part of the editing environment of Max, not the runtime environment. For example, you cannot save a patcher so that it will open in multiple views.”

bpatchers are not normal patches, so using the [pcontrol] object also seems to be non-functional in this case. [patcher] objects, I assume, have the ‘opening a new window’ function built into the object itself, while bpatchers gain that ability from max 5′s multiple views feature.

The only thing I could think of is to have your bpatcher be referencing a linked file, and set it up so that you can ‘modify read only’. Then you’d be able to edit the linked file and have the changes reflected in your bpatcher.

http://www.cycling74.com/docs/max5/vignettes/core/patcher_views.html

Re: bpatcher popup?

frank desben — Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:56:17 +0000

do there happen to be changes in max5 since these posts allowing it to open a “new view” of a bpatcher by sending a message to the bpatcher-object ?
thanks!

Re: bpatcher popup?

Roman Thilenius — Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:56:57 +0000

of course, what you could do is that you have [p allmystuff] in your bpatcher patch and
open that.

Re: bpatcher popup?

frank desben — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:02:42 +0000

did that too,
but it’s not really pretty
thanks anyway!

Re: bpatcher popup?

stefantiedje — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:23:32 +0000

What is the purpose? If its debugging, I use the context menu with ctrl-click to open a new view.
If you need it as part of your user interface, it would be hard to deal with, as you always have to switch from presentation to patching mode which I would consider bad design…