drewmcm

I want to place my gui objects (sliders, buttons, toggle etc) in the right places to show in the bpatcher - but I can't see where they'll show up when working in the subpatch assigned to bpatcher.

to be clearer, i'm trying to place my slider - but have no idea where the outside borders are of the batcher is in the parent patch - so don't know where to place slider.

does that make sense? how can I see the borders of the bpatcher I'm working in?

I know this is really simple but can't find it sorry

sorry for how rudimentary this is -
just starting to wan to use bpatchers.

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you could use a panel as tracing background - or a picture file - or connections as markers.

i usually start with a tracing picture in photoshop, which includes already where to place everything.

Given that a patch can be used as a bpatcher in multiple parent patchers, there's no 1:1 relationship of sizes.

I suggest creating the bpatcher using as much space, and whatever layout that makes the function the most clear, then using presentation mode on the bpatcher to place everything that you want to show in the upper left quadrant of the bpatcher.

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