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					<title><![CDATA[&quot;brownian&quot; in RTC-lib]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>bernardobarros2@gmail</dc:creator>

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						<p>hi all,</p>
<p>when I use &#8220;brownian 1 2 0.5&#8243; it supose to give me<br />
1&#8242;s and 2&#8242;s, right? but I&#8217;m getting only ones..</p>
<p>this object works well with intergers? or I&#8217;m doing something wrong?</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: &#8220;brownian&#8221; in RTC-lib]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Peter Castine</dc:creator>

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						<p>On around Feb 16, 2006, at 15:55, bbarros said something like:<br />
> hi all,<br />
><br />
>  when I use &#8220;brownian 1 2 0.5&#8243; it supose to give me<br />
>  1&#8242;s and 2&#8242;s, right? but I&#8217;m getting only ones..</p>
<p>You probably need to use explicit floats for all parameters, viz:</p>
<p>	[brownian 1. 2. 0.5]</p>
<p>Otherwise you&#8217;re in the integer domain and the output range is 1 < = x < <br />
2, which would explain your problem.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t know for sure. For Brownian motion I use lp.pfff from <br />
Litter Power. It&#8217;s even a Starter Pack object. For more flexibility, <br />
there&#8217;s lp.pvvv from Litter Pro.</p>
<p>Caveat: the syntax is a little different from Gerhard&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Hope this helps,<br />
Peter<br />
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: &#8220;brownian&#8221; in RTC-lib]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/brownian-in-rtc-lib/#post-70766</link>
					<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>loibner</dc:creator>

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						<p>&#8220;brownian 1 2 0.50&#8243; gives you *many, many* 1s and *very few* 2s. The  <br />
higher you set the variation parameter the more 2s you will get.</p>
<p>b.</p>
<p>max v2;<br />
#N vpatcher 331 167 676 477;<br />
#P window setfont &#8220;Sans Serif&#8221; 9.;<br />
#P window linecount 1;<br />
#P newex 46 240 41 196617 print 2;<br />
#P newex 46 211 32 196617 sel 2;<br />
#P toggle 46 46 15 0;<br />
#P newex 46 72 52 196617 metro 20;<br />
#P number 158 72 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;<br />
#P number 102 72 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;<br />
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#P number 46 178 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;<br />
#P button 46 107 15 0;<br />
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#P connect 7 0 6 0;<br />
#P connect 6 0 1 0;<br />
#P connect 1 0 0 0;<br />
#P connect 0 0 2 0;<br />
#P connect 2 0 8 0;<br />
#P connect 8 0 9 0;<br />
#P connect 4 0 0 1;<br />
#P connect 5 0 0 2;<br />
#P connect 3 0 0 3;<br />
#P pop;</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: &#8220;brownian&#8221; in RTC-lib]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/brownian-in-rtc-lib/#post-70767</link>
					<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>bernardobarros2@gmail</dc:creator>

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						<p>thanks peter and bernhard :)</p>
<p>this object outputs random numbers excluding max,<br />
maybe it was not a good choice for that situation:</p>
<p>#P window setfont &#8220;Sans Serif&#8221; 9.;<br />
#P window linecount 1;<br />
#P newex 558 232 73 196617 select 0 1 2 3;<br />
#P button 524 142 15 0;<br />
#P user rslider 562 140 145 23 4 1 0 0 1;<br />
#P newex 548 201 87 196617 brownian 0 3 0.5;<br />
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#P connect 3 0 1 0;<br />
#P connect 2 0 0 0;<br />
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#P connect 0 1 1 2;<br />
#P window clipboard copycount 5;</p>
<p>so.. the solution to use &#8220;brownian&#8221; with intergers is to add 1 to the<br />
maximal value?</p>
<p>thanks again,<br />
bernardo</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: &#8220;brownian&#8221; in RTC-lib]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Peter Castine</dc:creator>

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						<p>On around Feb 16, 2006, at 22:19, bbarros said something like:<br />
> so.. the solution to use &#8220;brownian&#8221; with intergers is to add 1 to the<br />
> maximal value?</p>
<p>Well, the Brownian model doesn&#8217;t really work with two integers anyway. <br />
The brownian abstraction is trying to simulate calculations in the real <br />
(float) domain by dividing the actual min/max into 65000 subdivisions. <br />
That won&#8217;t fool a mathematician, but is probably good enough for a lot <br />
of uses in Max. If you&#8217;re working with floats.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what sort of an effect you&#8217;re actually after.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for some kind of coin-flipper, perhaps with different <br />
probabilities for &#8220;heads&#8221; and &#8220;tails&#8221;, you can build something <br />
following the examples from the early Max random objects tutorials. Or <br />
just take lp.bernie (Litter Starter Pack, URI below).</p>
<p>If you want something else&#8230; well, you can probably also do it with <br />
Litter Power.</p>
<p>Hope this helps &#8212; Peter</p>
<p>><br />
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                  |      <a href="http://www.dspaudio.com/software/software.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dspaudio.com/software/software.html</a></p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: &#8220;brownian&#8221; in RTC-lib]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 10:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>loibner</dc:creator>

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						<p>I am also not quite sure what you are after. The interesting thing  <br />
about &#8220;brownian&#8221; is the fact that you can adjust the distance between  <br />
choices. If you just want a stream of random numbers there are  <br />
several max objects that serve this purpose: random, urn, drunk.</p>
<p>RTC-lib and Litter give you many more options for generating events  <br />
based on random operations.</p>
<p>hth<br />
B.</p>
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