Suddenly I am having problems with the simple connection of basic objects.
Often the patch cord doesn’t actually connect at the receiver. It leaves a
line that looks like it has connected by the line disappears when I lock the
patch, But worse, sometimes – often actually – Max crashes when I am in the
process of making a connection. Nothing special is happening at the time -
no jitter, DSP is off, no third party objects, maybe only 3-4 basic objects
in the patch.

Cheers
Gary Lee Nelson
Oberlin College
http://www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson

> Max 4.6.3 on MacBook Pro 17″ using OSX 10.4.10.
>
> Suddenly I am having problems with the simple connection of basic
> objects.
> Often the patch cord doesn’t actually connect at the receiver. It
> leaves a
> line that looks like it has connected by the line disappears when I
> lock the
> patch, But worse, sometimes – often actually – Max crashes when I
> am in the
> process of making a connection. Nothing special is happening at
> the time -
> no jitter, DSP is off, no third party objects, maybe only 3-4 basic
> objects
> in the patch.
>

Hi Gary,

could you specify a little more what you did exactly (which objects
or post an example) and maybe join a crashreport. I tried to recreate
your crash but I didn’t experience one.
(same machine, same max, but OS 10.4.11)

cheers
Piet

Cheers
Gary Lee Nelson
Oberlin College
http://www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson

> From: Piet Johan Meyer > Reply-To:
> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:04:28 +0100
> To:
> Subject: Re: [maxmsp] Bug in connecting objects in Max
>
>
> On 22.03.2008, at 19:51, Gary Lee Nelson wrote:
>
>> Max 4.6.3 on MacBook Pro 17″ using OSX 10.4.10.
>>
>> Suddenly I am having problems with the simple connection of basic
>> objects.
>> Often the patch cord doesn’t actually connect at the receiver. It
>> leaves a
>> line that looks like it has connected by the line disappears when I
>> lock the
>> patch, But worse, sometimes – often actually – Max crashes when I
>> am in the
>> process of making a connection. Nothing special is happening at
>> the time -
>> no jitter, DSP is off, no third party objects, maybe only 3-4 basic
>> objects
>> in the patch.
>>
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> could you specify a little more what you did exactly (which objects
> or post an example) and maybe join a crashreport. I tried to recreate
> your crash but I didn’t experience one.
> (same machine, same max, but OS 10.4.11)
>
> cheers
> Piet

I have occasional crashes, which could happen with the most simple patch
imaginable. Its rare and only happening while editing. It isn’t related
to any specific patch, as I had it also with official help patches while
modifying them…

It’s almost impossible to track down, I guess it will be gone with Max 5…

Sometimes I think it might be some java based other application which
makes it crash, more voodoo than science though…

Stefan

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Because I have some crashing problems too.
Only the whole grafix go buum.
Computer still working, audio playing but grafix gone.
This happens even when nothing going on, so to say, Max/MSP is on, DSP off, Live on, but empty set.
And it is happening since a week (the only thing I changed in my usual habits is I started to use the anal/prob objects intensively and repaired my HD permissions), when the computer puts ONLY the screen asleep.
When I edit in Max I experience the same crash type EXACTLY as said above.
just connecting 2 objects makes the computer grafix go buum.

Though I noticed that it is NOT happening when
a) Remote zero disconnected
b) Audio/MIDI setup default built in
c) Computer did NOT go in sleep mode yet

it happens maybe 3 times when the Remote zero is connected, then nothing, today it still did not happen.

I just wanted to give some more information so that maybe a theory comes out…

+ I had some Safari problems which did not manifest with Firefox.

I noticed that when it happens I get a little electric shock from the keyboard.

So I made this little search on google

http://www.google.de/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=de&q=Electrical+Electricity+problems+Macbook+Apple&meta=&btnG=Google-Suche

anyone had this experience?

ps
check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPdtDHjr3QM

btw I have a plastic Macbook, so for me, boh??? I have really no idea…

ciao to all

I have 2 distinct different problems.
1) is HW
2) the other is soft.

Since in a moment of panic I thought I had company I posted here, but I made a mistake, sorry.
My problems have very little to do with Max, well, the responsible is not Max, or the Novation Remote.

I tested in a HW shop, and I have serious static problems, so bad that the computer

Reading your symptoms, I’m thinking, well, when Max refuses to make a connection it’s normally because the patch-time type-checking says the recipient won’t understand the message the sender is transmitting. I always assumed that was one of the reasons for specifying message types in the API for creating inlets and outlets.

So much is not news, but it may be a sign that Max is loading the wrong external file for one of your objects. I had this happen with scale object years ago, from the wild west days when there was no standard scale object but about 15 different 3PO implementations. One reason I gave scampi and scampf oddball names was to avoid external name ambiguity.

I realize you can’t save a patch with the connection that crashes Max, but can you localize to particular externals? And maybe Spotlight your search path to be sure there aren’t any duplicates.

Hope this helps.