Thanks for the great work on Max, lots of exciting stuff. However, I

noticed what seems to be a bug with scripting.

When looking at the Max/examples/max-tricks/buttonflower.maxpat patch

in Max 5 the patch uses sometimes 90% or more of my CPU than with on

4.6.3 (MaxMSP 4.6/examples/misc-max-trix/buttonflower.pat) which only

uses around 36% max. With this patch open in Max 5, my computer gets

almost completely unresponsive. I'm using Mac OS 10.4.11 with a 1.67

Powerbook/2GB RAM. I'm using Activity Monitor on OS X for my CPU

Thanks for the great work on Max, lots of exciting stuff. However, I
noticed what seems to be a bug with scripting.

When looking at the Max/examples/max-tricks/buttonflower.maxpat patch
in Max 5 the patch uses sometimes 90% or more of my CPU than with on
4.6.3 (MaxMSP 4.6/examples/misc-max-trix/buttonflower.pat) which only
uses around 36% max. With this patch open in Max 5, my computer gets
almost completely unresponsive. I'm using Mac OS 10.4.11 with a 1.67
Powerbook/2GB RAM. I'm using Activity Monitor on OS X for my CPU
percentages. Can anyone reproduce this?


bug-max-5-buttonflower-example-patch-uses-90-cpu

For me, only 22 % CPU at the maximum with the buttonflower (with a MacBook Pro 2.33)

if the toggles go outside the screen, not over 22%. otherwise 4-8%

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Thomas Collin wrote:

> For me, only 22 % CPU at the maximum with the buttonflower (with a MacBook

on a win desktop with e6400 processor
if the toggles go outside the screen, not over 22%. otherwise 4-8%
btw.  thats some crazy shit

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Thomas Collin  wrote:

>
> For me, only 22 % CPU at the maximum with the buttonflower (with a MacBook
> Pro 2.33)
>

must be a G4 thing - my iBook (OS X 10.5.2, 1.33 Ghz, 1.5 GB ram) hits 82 -

88% CPU when buttonflower is running.But the boot time for MaxMSP 5 is much,

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 5:32 AM, yair reshef wrote:

> if the toggles go outside the screen, not over 22%. otherwise 4-8%

> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Thomas Collin wrote:

> > For me, only 22 % CPU at the maximum with the buttonflower (with a

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must be a G4 thing - my iBook (OS X 10.5.2, 1.33 Ghz, 1.5 GB ram) hits 82 -
88% CPU when buttonflower is running.But the boot time for MaxMSP 5 is much,
much snappier!

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 5:32 AM, yair reshef  wrote:

> on a win desktop with e6400 processor
> if the toggles go outside the screen, not over 22%. otherwise 4-8%
> btw.  thats some crazy shit
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Thomas Collin  wrote:
>
> >
> > For me, only 22 % CPU at the maximum with the buttonflower (with a
> > MacBook Pro 2.33)
> >
>
>
>
>

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So is it only scripting which is affected for you, because on my end

(G4, 1.67, 10.4.11, 2GB RAM) many patches (same patch file) are using

sometimes double the CPU % amount in Max 5 when compared side by side

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Arliss Renwick wrote:

> must be a G4 thing - my iBook (OS X 10.5.2, 1.33 Ghz, 1.5 GB ram) hits 82 -

> But the boot time for MaxMSP 5 is much, much snappier!

So is it only scripting which is affected for you, because on my end
(G4, 1.67, 10.4.11, 2GB RAM) many patches (same patch file) are using
sometimes double the CPU % amount in Max 5 when compared side by side
with 4.6.3.

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Arliss Renwick  wrote:
> must be a G4 thing - my iBook (OS X 10.5.2, 1.33 Ghz, 1.5 GB ram) hits 82 -
> 88% CPU when buttonflower is running.
> But the boot time for MaxMSP 5 is much, much snappier!


Almost 60% CPU in MAX5 here. Around 17% in max 4.6. I'm on a Macbook pro 2,33mhz. That's quite a difference.

On Apr 23, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Lut Lei wrote:

> Almost 60% CPU in MAX5 here. Around 17% in max 4.6. I'm on a Macbook 

> pro 2,33mhz. That's quite a difference.

Patches that script objects to move around in the patcher (especially 

outside of the window bounds) are going to be slower. Not much is 

going to be done about that. Good news is that this is rarely done 

except in purely illustrative examples such as that one.

On Apr 23, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Lut Lei wrote:
>
> Almost 60% CPU in MAX5 here. Around 17% in max 4.6. I'm on a Macbook  
> pro 2,33mhz. That's quite a difference.

Patches that script objects to move around in the patcher (especially  
outside of the window bounds) are going to be slower. Not much is  
going to be done about that. Good news is that this is rarely done  
except in purely illustrative examples such as that one.

[bug] Max 5 buttonflower example patch uses 90%+ CPU