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					<title><![CDATA[[BUG] Max5 click on inlet to send message]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Zachary Seldess</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hi everyone,</p>
<p>Hope this hasn&#8217;t already been reported. If so, my apologies.</p>
<p>I came across this today, actually while teaching the feature to a new Maxer. </p>
<p>In certain situations, sending a message via the new and extremely convenient &#8220;click on inlet -> select &#8220;Send Message&#8221; -> type message&#8221; feature seems to be buggy. Here&#8217;s an example patch walking your through it with the metro object. I&#8217;ve only tested this on Leopard. Can others confirm this behavior (see patch for explanation of exact behavior):</p>
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</p><p>best,<br />
Zachary</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: [BUG] Max5 click on inlet to send message]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/bug-max5-click-on-inlet-to-send-message/#post-133196</link>
					<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 11:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Emmanuel Jourdan</dc:creator>

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						<p>On 7 juin 08, at 04:32, Zachary Seldess wrote:</p>
<p>><br />
> Hi everyone,<br />
><br />
> Hope this hasn&#8217;t already been reported. If so, my apologies.<br />
><br />
> I came across this today, actually while teaching the feature to a  <br />
> new Maxer.<br />
><br />
> In certain situations, sending a message via the new and extremely  <br />
> convenient &#8220;click on inlet -> select &#8220;Send Message&#8221; -> type message&#8221;  <br />
> feature seems to be buggy. Here&#8217;s an example patch walking your  <br />
> through it with the metro object. I&#8217;ve only tested this on Leopard.  <br />
> Can others confirm this behavior (see patch for explanation of exact  <br />
> behavior):</p>
<p>
Thanks for the report, there were a bug when the value was higher than  <br />
127. This is fixed fore the next incremental.</p>
<p>For your second issue though, the &#8220;Send Message&#8221; feature only send a  <br />
message to the left inlet, no matter what. So if you want to change  <br />
the speed, you can write &#8220;interval 500&#8243; for instance in the send  <br />
message box.</p>
<p>ej</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: [BUG] Max5 click on inlet to send message]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Zachary Seldess</dc:creator>

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						<p>Ah, I see. I must have missed that detail in the documentation. So that shortcut only ever allows you to send a message to the 1st inlet, regardless of which inlet you actually clicked.</p>
<p>And the real issue is that all non-zero numbers above 128 did not start metro. Thanks for fixing it in the next incremental.</p>
<p>But I actually thought I was changing the interval when in fact I wasn&#8217;t. Thanks for the info.</p>
<p>Somewhat related to this (i.e. attribute names) &#8211; is there a way to have the object inspector display the attribute names by default (it is manually displayed by clicking the @ symbol at the bottom of the window). I get tired of clicking that button every time I open a new inspector. Couldn&#8217;t find a preference setting for this. Is it there somewhere?</p>
<p>best,<br />
Zachary</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: [BUG] Max5 click on inlet to send message]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Emmanuel Jourdan</dc:creator>

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						<p>On 7 juin 08, at 14:31, Zachary Seldess wrote:</p>
<p>> Ah, I see. I must have missed that detail in the documentation. So  <br />
> that shortcut only ever allows you to send a message to the 1st  <br />
> inlet, regardless of which inlet you actually clicked.<br />
><br />
> And the real issue is that all non-zero numbers above 128 did not  <br />
> start metro. Thanks for fixing it in the next incremental.<br />
><br />
> But I actually thought I was changing the interval when in fact I  <br />
> wasn&#8217;t. Thanks for the info.<br />
><br />
> Somewhat related to this (i.e. attribute names) &#8211; is there a way to  <br />
> have the object inspector display the attribute names by default (it  <br />
> is manually displayed by clicking the @ symbol at the bottom of the  <br />
> window). I get tired of clicking that button every time I open a new  <br />
> inspector. Couldn&#8217;t find a preference setting for this. Is it there  <br />
> somewhere?</p>
<p>
This is not saved in the preference, although it will remember that  <br />
the option is check for the all &#8220;session&#8221; (until you restart Max).</p>
<p>ej</p>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 13:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Zachary Seldess</dc:creator>

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						<p>&#8220;This is not saved in the preference, although it will remember that the option is check for the all &#8220;session&#8221; (until you restart Max).&#8221;</p>
<p>Not for me, unless &#8211; again &#8211; I&#8217;m missing something. </p>
<p>1. Create two objects<br />
2. get info on one object and click the &#8220;@&#8221; button to display attribute names<br />
3. select other object &#8211; the @ button must be clicked again. It doesn&#8217;t remember the setting<br />
4. select the first object again &#8211; it also doesn&#8217;t remember the setting</p>
<p>Thanks for the help.</p>
<p>best,<br />
Zachary</p>
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					<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Emmanuel Jourdan</dc:creator>

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					<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Zachary Seldess</dc:creator>

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						<p>I haven&#8217;t tested on Win XP yet, but I can reproduce always on my MPB Intel Leopard 10.5.2 and Windows Vista Home Basic installs.</p>
<p>I have 5.0.2 installed on all platforms. Does anyone else have this problem? I&#8217;m surprised its&#8217; working for you Emmanuel.</p>
<p>
In fact, all I have to do (in Vista or Leopard) is:</p>
<p>1. make an object<br />
2. open inspector<br />
3. click the @ button to show attribute names<br />
4. close the inspector<br />
5. reopen the inspector for the same object, and the setting is forgotten</p>
<p>best,<br />
Zachary</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: [BUG] Max5 click on inlet to send message]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Zachary Seldess</dc:creator>

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						<p>Can some other people please confirm this behavior. It seems very unlikely that it&#8217;s specific to my two computers. Cycling isn&#8217;t going to fix it if it&#8217;s just me, and apparently Emmanuel can&#8217;t reproduce on his machines. Again, do this:</p>
<p>1. make an object<br />
2. open object inspector<br />
3. click the @ button to show attribute names<br />
4. close the inspector<br />
5. reopen the inspector for the same object, and the setting is forgotten, requiring you to click teh @ button once again</p>
<p>Can anyone reproduce? Perhaps it&#8217;s a byproduct of some combination of global preference settings.</p>
<p>Zachary</p>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>seejayjames</dc:creator>

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						<p>It forgets the setting on mine too, 5.0.0, XP. That would be nice if it remembered, I like having the attributes hideable, but for now I&#8217;d rather see them to learn the names better.</p>
<p>&#8211;CJ</p>
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