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					<title><![CDATA[caching javaclasses?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Lovebrain</dc:creator>

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						<p>here&#8217;s my next newbie problem.. </p>
<p>i have a java class written in eclipse and call it with my mxj object.. it works fine.. but after i have done some modifications in my class they aren&#8217;t visible in max.. only after restarting max the changes are visible.. in the WritingMaxExternalsInJava.pdf is written: &#8220;There&#8217;s no need to quit and restart Max if you want to change one line of code in the external object you&#8217;re developing&#8221; that should be the regular behavior.. or not?? if i try to open the class with mxj quickie.. the class is decompiling.. and now thats the strange thing.. my changes are written in the code.. if i compile it again with mxj quickie the object is working with the modifications&#8230; so there is another thread in the java forum people there said that eclipse isn&#8217;t compiling well.. but in my case it is.. so class is compiled but not refreshed.. is there any caching mechanism or maybe i only have to define something in max.java.config.txt..</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: caching javaclasses?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Emmanuel Jourdan</dc:creator>

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						<p>On 26 sept. 07, at 21:28, Christian Veit wrote:</p>
<p>> i have a java class written in eclipse and call it with my mxj  <br />
> object.. it works fine.. but after i have done some modifications  <br />
> in my class they aren&#8217;t visible in max.. only after restarting max  <br />
> the changes are visible.. in the WritingMaxExternalsInJava.pdf is  <br />
> written: &#8220;There&#8217;s no need to quit and restart Max if you want to  <br />
> change one line of code in the external object you&#8217;re developing&#8221;  <br />
> that should be the regular behavior.. or not?? if i try to open the  <br />
> class with mxj quickie.. the class is decompiling.. and now thats  <br />
> the strange thing.. my changes are written in the code.. if i  <br />
> compile it again with mxj quickie the object is working with the  <br />
> modifications&#8230; so there is another thread in the java forum  <br />
> people there said that eclipse isn&#8217;t compiling well.. but in my  <br />
> case it is.. so class is compiled but not refreshed.. is there any  <br />
> caching mechanism or maybe i only have to define something in  <br />
> max.java.config.txt..</p>
<p>I remember having some issues with more than one class in a java  <br />
file. Is that you&#8217;re case?</p>
<p>ej</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: caching javaclasses?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Lovebrain</dc:creator>

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						<p>no i have only one simple class in the java file..</p>
<p>regards<br />
Christian</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: caching javaclasses?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>topher lafata</dc:creator>

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						<p>try sending the zap message to your mxj instance and option drag it  <br />
to create a new one<br />
or re-type the name in the box.<br />
t</p>
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On Sep 27, 2007, at 09:36 AM, Christian Veit wrote:</p>
<p>><br />
> no i have only one simple class in the java file..<br />
><br />
> regards<br />
> Christian</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: caching javaclasses?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Lovebrain</dc:creator>

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						<p>
> try sending the zap message to your mxj instance and option drag it  <br />
> to create a new one</p>
<p>it seems that the zap message doesn&#8217;t work in my case.. </p>
<p>> or re-type the name in the box.<br />
re-typing the name works good.. but a bit onerously.. </p>
<p>thanks for help!</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: caching javaclasses?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Emmanuel Jourdan</dc:creator>

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						<p>On 27 sept. 07, at 20:29, Christian Veit wrote:</p>
<p>>> try sending the zap message to your mxj instance and option drag it<br />
>> to create a new one<br />
><br />
> it seems that the zap message doesn&#8217;t work in my case..<br />
><br />
>> or re-type the name in the box.<br />
> re-typing the name works good.. but a bit onerously&#8230;</p>
<p>In fact that&#8217;s how it&#8217;s supposed to work, I thought you were doing  <br />
that already. It&#8217;s different than in JS where the autowatch makes an  <br />
auto reload process, which cannot be done for the mxj object which  <br />
load a java class on instantiation.</p>
<p>ej</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: caching javaclasses?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Lovebrain</dc:creator>

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						<p>> In fact that&#8217;s how it&#8217;s supposed to work, I thought you were doing  <br />
> that already. It&#8217;s different than in JS where the autowatch makes an  <br />
> auto reload process, which cannot be done for the mxj object which  <br />
> load a java class on instantiation.<br />
> </p>
<p>alright.. yes i&#8217;ve tried it before also with renaming the mxj object but i think the problem was that i had called a bail() method in my constructor.. i think that was the reason why the reinstanciation hadn&#8217;t worked&#8230; </p>
<p>ch.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: caching javaclasses?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>topher lafata</dc:creator>

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						<p>
On Sep 27, 2007, at 11:29 AM, Christian Veit wrote:</p>
<p>><br />
><br />
>> try sending the zap message to your mxj instance and option drag it<br />
>> to create a new one<br />
><br />
> it seems that the zap message doesn&#8217;t work in my case..<br />
></p>
<p>if you send zap and then option drag on the instance the new one you  <br />
created should have the new version of the class. i forget if zap has  <br />
to be enabled via max java config.</p>
<p>t</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: caching javaclasses?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 08:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>nick rothwell / cassiel</dc:creator>

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						<p>
On 27 Sep 2007, at 19:29, Christian Veit wrote:</p>
<p>>> or re-type the name in the box.<br />
> re-typing the name works good.. but a bit onerously..</p>
<p>You can do a bit of scripting to remove and reinstantiate the mxj  <br />
object which contains your code, so that you can least reload  <br />
everything from a button. (You&#8217;ll need to name the upstream and  <br />
downstream objects in order to reconnect them.)</p>
<p>	&#8211; N.</p>
<p>
   nick rothwell &#8212; composition, systems, performance &#8212; http:// <br />
<a href="http://www.cassiel.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cassiel.com</a></p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: caching javaclasses?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Lovebrain</dc:creator>

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						<p>> You can do a bit of scripting to remove and reinstantiate the mxj  <br />
> object which contains your code, so that you can least reload  <br />
> everything from a button. (You&#8217;ll need to name the upstream and  <br />
> downstream objects in order to reconnect them.)</p>
<p>thanks for that hint.. so i&#8217;ve tried at the moment to remove and reinstantiate the mxj.. it works fine.. </p>
<p>now i should reconnect the mxj with the other objects.. should be no problem if i know the connections.. there are two possibilities i could code it into my reconnect mxj.. </p>
<p>but the way i would like to prefer is that my reconnect mxj is watching which connections are existing to my reinstantiating mxj.. i would save the connections and remove the object.. the reconnection should only read the saved values, so i could use the  reconnect mxj in many cases.. only the name of the object and the classname have to be defined the rest should be done with the reconnect mxj.. </p>
<p>so is there a way to find out to which other objects in the patch at which inlets or outlets they are connected.. i didn&#8217;t found something about that in the java-doc.. so i expect that it is impossible or not?</p>
<p>c.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: caching javaclasses?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Emmanuel Jourdan</dc:creator>

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					<title><![CDATA[Re: caching javaclasses?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Lovebrain</dc:creator>

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						<p>so now i have a really fine solution.. i have written three mxj objects.. two connection objects (one for upstream and one for downstream connections) with these both objects i can define my connections.. and with the third object (the Reloader Object) i can define my mxj object wich i like to reload..</p>
<p>after sending the connections to my reload object i only have to send a reload message and my mxj will be reinstatntiated.. so developing mxj objects is more comfortable..</p>
<p>thanks for help i&#8217;ve got from you</p>
<p>c</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: caching javaclasses?]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 01:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>andymule</dc:creator>

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						<p>I have to zap my mxj object and THEN rename and then rename-back-to-original. Good enough for me.</p>
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