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Cassini Oval, NURBS won't close

niemeyer — Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:41:41 +0000

Dear Jitter List,
Is it my math or something in the nurbs object that will not allow this
Cassini Oval to close? I want to model mitosis…Thanks for any help!

Greg

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Re: Cassini Oval, NURBS won't close

nesa — Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:29:41 +0000

hello,

it seems that there is something a bit wrong with your math, but I have no
clue what exactly.

I tried to send matrix generated in javascript to jit.gl.mesh, and the
problem was still there, so it seems not to be nurbs related.

try to draw blob crossection:

for (var l=0; l < 16; l++){

and move camera to 2.27 3.47 2.98

maybe you’ll see something that might help…

you could also use jit.expr to do what your javascript peopleMaker does, if
you need more speed.

hth,
nesa

Re: Cassini Oval, NURBS won't close

niemeyer — Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:57:32 +0000

yes, I also found out that nurbs is not too happy with many points
converging in [0, 0] but with [0.0001, 0.0001] there is no problem. Are
you suggesting replacing all the math with jit.expr objects ? I did not
realize that would be faster than JS Math objects, but I will try!

Thanks, Greg

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Re: Cassini Oval, NURBS won't close

Joshua Kit Clayton — Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:49:21 +0000

Check out the performance difference between jsglsurface-example.pat
(uses jit.expr to evaluate surface) and jsglsurface2-example.pat
(uses JS to evaluate surface). You’ll notice something like a 20-40x
performance difference in your surface calulation by useing jit.expr.
However if there aren’t too many control points to calulate, then
it’s not likely to result in overall performance benefits.

Also worth noting, certain types of calculation (like using adjacent
input or output cells to calculate the expression) are either a
nuisance (for adjacent input cells) or not possible (for adjacent
output cells). For adjacent input cells you *can* use one of the
spatial objects like jit.rota(in[0], @offset_x -1) in your
expression to grab a neighboring cell along the x axis for instance.

Haven’t had time to examine your nurbs closing problem, but let us
know if you still are unable to track it down and I can try to figure
out a solution. The nurbs object closes connections about each axis
(connect top to bottom or left to right) and hence is good for closed
connections like a cylinder or torus, but doesn’t close connections
*along* any given side of your mesh, so it can’t smoothly make
spheres for instance.

Hope this helps.

-Joshua

Re: Cassini Oval, NURBS won't close

nesa — Sat, 22 Apr 2006 18:21:00 +0000

hello,

besides ‘many points in 0,0′ thing, i’ve noticed that there are some
surfaces that ‘bend’ or ‘sunk’ from the top of your shape towards the
bottom, the crossection of the top looks like more like M than like Π ,
like when top vertex goes from top to bottom… or maybe this was intended?

thanks to Joshua for jit.expr tips!

best,
nesa