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> 2 - I change session for a personnal session

could you explain what you mean with "change session"? I have no idea...

> 3 - I change session - MIDI doesn't work

> for example ctlin receive midi messages, but ONLY on "All devices by 

This cries for an example patch, ctlin normally receives on all devices, 

how should we now what you did to receive only on one, there are may 

ways to do so... Also if ctlin receives on all inputs, I would not call 

Which Midi interface are you using? I usually have luck to unplug and 

replug a USB Midi interface if it bugs out (my MT-4 isn't the most 

Mihalic Alexander schrieb:
> 1 - I open Max - MIDI works
> 2 - I change session for a personnal session

> 3 - I change session - MIDI doesn't work
>
> for example ctlin receive midi messages, but ONLY on "All devices by 
> channel" and not on one of them....

This cries for an example patch, ctlin normally receives on all devices, 
how should we now what you did to receive only on one, there are may 
ways to do so... Also if ctlin receives on all inputs, I would not call 
this "MIDI doesn't work"...

maybe...
Which Midi interface are you using? I usually have luck to unplug and 
replug a USB Midi interface if it bugs out (my MT-4 isn't the most 
reliable in the world...)

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On 5 juil. 07, at 09:16, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

>> 2 - I change session for a personnal session

> could you explain what you mean with "change session"? I have no 

Login as another user. Possible on OSX, and for sure also on Win.

Does this happen with all MIDI interfaces? If you're on a Mac, does the 

On my setup (OSX39, Max463, Firece400) it works.

On OSX, multi user is often badly supported (for instance, it's 

impossible to scan with an HP scanner from different accounts wihout 

restarting the Mac!!), even from cycling'74 (pluggos worked only for 

the user who installed them - it think it's now corrected).

So I wouldn't be surprised that your MIDI driver doesn't support this, 

>> 3 - I change session - MIDI doesn't work

>> for example ctlin receive midi messages, but ONLY on "All devices by 

> This cries for an example patch, ctlin normally receives on all 

> devices, how should we now what you did to receive only on one, there 

> are may ways to do so... Also if ctlin receives on all inputs, I would 

> Which Midi interface are you using? I usually have luck to unplug and 

> replug a USB Midi interface if it bugs out (my MT-4 isn't the most 

Centre de Recherches et de Formation Musicales de Wallonie asbl

> Mihalic Alexander schrieb:
>> 1 - I open Max - MIDI works
>> 2 - I change session for a personnal session
>
> could you explain what you mean with "change session"? I have no 
> idea...

Does this happen with all MIDI interfaces? If you're on a Mac, does the 
IAC busses still work?

On OSX, multi user is often badly supported (for instance, it's 
impossible to scan with an HP scanner from different accounts wihout 
restarting the Mac!!), even from cycling'74 (pluggos worked only for 
the user who installed them - it think it's now corrected).
So I wouldn't be surprised that your MIDI driver doesn't support this, 
although...

>> 3 - I change session - MIDI doesn't work
>> for example ctlin receive midi messages, but ONLY on "All devices by 
>> channel" and not on one of them....

> This cries for an example patch, ctlin normally receives on all 
> devices, how should we now what you did to receive only on one, there 
> are may ways to do so... Also if ctlin receives on all inputs, I would 
> not call this "MIDI doesn't work"...
>
>> is there any solution????
>
> maybe...
> Which Midi interface are you using? I usually have luck to unplug and 
> replug a USB Midi interface if it bugs out (my MT-4 isn't the most 
> reliable in the world...)

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>> could you explain what you mean with "change session"? I have no idea...

> Login as another user. Possible on OSX, and for sure also on Win.

On Linux I can stay logged in and just switch to another account. I 

haven't seen this on OS X, there, it seems, I have to log out, which 

closes all applications, to log in as another user, I guess I am missing 

Patrick Delges schrieb:
>> could you explain what you mean with "change session"? I have no idea...
>
> Login as another user. Possible on OSX, and for sure also on Win.

On Linux I can stay logged in and just switch to another account. I 
haven't seen this on OS X, there, it seems, I have to log out, which 
closes all applications, to log in as another user, I guess I am missing 
somthing...

Yes, that explains the problem, I guess the assignment of the letters to 

the ports gets screwed between the two sessions. I would take care that 

both users have identical Audio/Midisetups, maybe differences between 

I stopped using the letter assignment long ago, because using meaning 

full names is so much more convenient. I always have a midiinfo fill a 

menu. Then you could easily just bang all menus after you switched and 

it will be fine... (requires to over howl all of your patches though, 

As you need same assignments for your different setups anyway, you also 

have to take care that all instrument names are the same, like 

"Keyboard", "Faderbox", "Synth1", "Synth2" etc... You could come along 

without the menu and put the names into the midi objects, but then 

you're in trouble if you go to your friend who has different names...

You can also use pattrstorage to save different setups for different 

computers, that way you could even automate the assignment...

Mihalic Alexander schrieb:
> Hope it's more clear now.... ;-)

Yes, that explains the problem, I guess the assignment of the letters to 
the ports gets screwed between the two sessions. I would take care that 
both users have identical Audio/Midisetups, maybe differences between 
the two might confuse things...

I stopped using the letter assignment long ago, because using meaning 
full names is so much more convenient. I always have a midiinfo fill a 
menu. Then you could easily just bang all menus after you switched and 
it will be fine... (requires to over howl all of your patches though, 
but I think its worth it...)
As you need same assignments for your different setups anyway, you also 
have to take care that all instrument names are the same, like 
"Keyboard", "Faderbox", "Synth1", "Synth2" etc... You could come along 
without the menu and put the names into the midi objects, but then 
you're in trouble if you go to your friend who has different names...
You can also use pattrstorage to save different setups for different 
computers, that way you could even automate the assignment...

> You can allow this with "activer la permutation rapide d'utilisateur" in 

> the account preference panel. If I remember well, it keeks all 

That's where I looked for options, but it does not seem to exist on my 

computer, neither in french nor in english or german...

(I don't really bother, I don't need it personally, maybe it requires a 

jln schrieb:
> You can allow this with "activer la permutation rapide d'utilisateur" in 
> the account preference panel. If I remember well, it keeks all 
> applications opened.

That's where I looked for options, but it does not seem to exist on my 
computer, neither in french nor in english or german...
(I don't really bother, I don't need it personally, maybe it requires a 
server version of OS X...)

On 6 juil. 07, at 09:44, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

>> You can allow this with "activer la permutation rapide d'utilisateur" 

>> in the account preference panel. If I remember well, it keeks all 

> That's where I looked for options, but it does not seem to exist on my 

> computer, neither in french nor in english or german...

> (I don't really bother, I don't need it personally, maybe it requires 

Preferences->Accounts->Login options->Fast user switching. On OSX3 and 

> jln schrieb:
>> You can allow this with "activer la permutation rapide d'utilisateur" 
>> in the account preference panel. If I remember well, it keeks all 
>> applications opened.
>
> That's where I looked for options, but it does not seem to exist on my 
> computer, neither in french nor in english or german...
> (I don't really bother, I don't need it personally, maybe it requires 
> a server version of OS X...)

Preferences->Accounts->Login options->Fast user switching. On OSX3 and 
OSX4. No need for a server version.

change Session - MIDI lost