Chris

chopping-a-sample-into-its-individual-samples

I think the main problem is your design mixes control rate operations

with real-time signals. Snapshot~ will output sample values but at the control rate.

You will also need to bang it to get any value out. This also introduces latency

into the design. I would suggest keeping track of the number of samples and 

then introduce a delay or pause after each portion of the audio you want goes 

by. That should split things up and still maintain sample accuracy.

> i am trying to automatically chop a sound file into it's individual cycles but am having trouble. Could anyone tell me why my meager patch will not work?

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> #P user umenu 287 434 45 196647 1 64 450 1;

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I think the main problem is your design mixes control rate operations
with real-time signals. Snapshot~ will output sample values but at the control rate.
You will also need to bang it to get any value out. This also introduces latency
into the design. I would suggest keeping track of the number of samples and 
then introduce a delay or pause after each portion of the audio you want goes 
by. That should split things up and still maintain sample accuracy.

---- Chris Hipgrave  wrote: 
>
> Hi all,
>
> i am trying to automatically chop a sound file into it's individual cycles but am having trouble. Could anyone tell me why my meager patch will not work?
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>
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>
>
> --
> http://www.chrishipgrave.co.uk


> i am trying to automatically chop a sound file into it's individual

> cycles but am having trouble. Could anyone tell me why my meager

You will have to look into envelope following and thresholds to decide 

objects to look into: abs~, slide~ or rampsmooth~, thresh~.

I would first just analyse the bits and pieces, store them into a coll 

and rather record~ into other buffers or simply copy the analyzed bits 

coll, record~, waveform~ (especially the crop message), mxj buf.Op

Chris Hipgrave schrieb:
> i am trying to automatically chop a sound file into it's individual
> cycles but am having trouble. Could anyone tell me why my meager
> patch will not work?

You will have to look into envelope following and thresholds to decide 
when a sound starts and when it ends.

I would first just analyse the bits and pieces, store them into a coll 
and rather record~ into other buffers or simply copy the analyzed bits 
to new buffers...

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chopping a sample into it's individual samples