http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/MAX/downloads/

cheers

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Anthony

—– Original Message —–
From: “f.e” Date: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:54 am
Subject: [maxmsp] CNMAT new download page

> CNMAT has released a brand new, clear & handy, download page where
> it
> appears that 99% of their externals are now compiled for Windows,
> *including* [SDIF-Buffer] & [SDIF-Tuples] ! It’s awesome. Thanks
> to
> CNMAT :-)
>
> http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/MAX/downloads/
>
> cheers
>
> f.e
>
> —
> f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
> > >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
> > >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|
>

f.e

f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
> >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|

apalomba@austin.rr.com wrote:
> The Windows zip file does not work.
>
>
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
> —– Original Message —–
> From: “f.e” > Date: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:54 am
> Subject: [maxmsp] CNMAT new download page
>
>
>> CNMAT has released a brand new, clear & handy, download page where
>> it
>> appears that 99% of their externals are now compiled for Windows,
>> *including* [SDIF-Buffer] & [SDIF-Tuples] ! It’s awesome. Thanks
>> to
>> CNMAT :-)
>>
>> http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/MAX/downloads/
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> f.e
>>
>> —
>> f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
>>>>>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|
>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Georg

On Sep 13, 2006, at 10:53 AM, f.e wrote:

> CNMAT has released a brand new, clear & handy, download page where
> it appears that 99% of their externals are now compiled for
> Windows, *including* [SDIF-Buffer] & [SDIF-Tuples] ! It’s awesome.
> Thanks to CNMAT :-)
>
> http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/MAX/downloads/
>
> cheers
>
> f.e
>
> —
> f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
>> >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
>> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|

I’m prepearing a neural net external library with various families of
nets. You’ll have something soon. I just need to find the time to
finish it.

O./

Funny that I find SPEAR (http://www.klingbeil.com/spear/) to look like the most promising analysis tool but there are not much references to it in the CNMAT circumference.. any idea why that is?

Anyone heard of an analyser external for max by any chance? ;)

Best,
Mattijs

Anthony

—– Original Message —–
From: “Mattijs Kneppers”
To:
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 7:44 AM
Subject: [maxmsp] Re: CNMAT new download page

>
> This is very nice. Now there is no excuse to implement all those
interesting resynthesis and morphing applications I’ve been wanting to make
:)
>
> Funny that I find SPEAR (http://www.klingbeil.com/spear/) to look like the
most promising analysis tool but there are not much references to it in the
CNMAT circumference.. any idea why that is?
>
> Anyone heard of an analyser external for max by any chance? ;)
>
> Best,
> Mattijs

I assumed so, that’s probably what I’ll do first. Just figured there should be references to spear all over the website of cnmat but there aren’t.

And wouldn’t it be ultimate luxury to be able to record and automatically analyze a sound all within max? :)

http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/courses/g6610/fall2005/week13/index.html

brad

http://music.columbia.edu/~brad

PS: Michael K. has joined the Yale faculty this year — go Michael go!

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Anthony Palomba wrote:

> You should be able to save SPDIF data with SPEAR
> and then load it in Max using the CNMAT externals.
>
>
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
> —– Original Message —–
> From: “Mattijs Kneppers”
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 7:44 AM
> Subject: [maxmsp] Re: CNMAT new download page
>
>
>>
>> This is very nice. Now there is no excuse to implement all those
> interesting resynthesis and morphing applications I’ve been wanting to make
> :)
>>
>> Funny that I find SPEAR (http://www.klingbeil.com/spear/) to look like the
> most promising analysis tool but there are not much references to it in the
> CNMAT circumference.. any idea why that is?
>>
>> Anyone heard of an analyser external for max by any chance? ;)
>>
>> Best,
>> Mattijs
>
>

Surely interesting.. Resynthesizing is one option, but has any of you heard of (or participated in) a project where this data was used to do some intelligent feature-recognition for (for example) a feature-based morph between sounds?

Mattijs

> Surely interesting.. Resynthesizing is one option, but has any of you
> heard of (or participated in) a project where this data was used to do
> some intelligent feature-recognition for (for example) a feature-based
> morph between sounds?

You might want to look at some software we did in a joint
music/engineering grad seminar here last year:

http://labrosa.ee.columbia.edu/meapsoft/

It’s not exactly what you describe, but the feature-extraction techniques
are pretty snazzy. All in java, so maybe not too terribly difficult to
integrate into mxj.

brad

http://music.columbia.edu/~brad

Martin

best,
Martin

We tend to use the IRCAM analysers at CNMAT, for historical reasons. However, I’ve used SPEAR a fair bit and am very happy with it. SDIF files open fine with SDIF-buffer. Find it here:

http://www.klingbeil.com/spear/

I plan to expand the Tutorials with comments on analysis in the near future. Realtime analysis is much trickier than using SPEAR or AddAn or Loris — if you have access to the iana~ object, of IRCAM, that is promising.

mz

Hi Martin-

Could you give me any more specifics? I’m running a Macbook Pro and not able to reproduce your problem. Is it just, 1) make resonators~, 2) enjoy crash?

mz

OK, I’ve got it. resonators~ crashes when closing the patch with audio on.

More soon…

mz

> OK, I’ve got it. resonators~ crashes when closing the patch with
> audio on.

Are you calling dsp_free() at the beginning, middle, or end of your
deallocation method? Cf. < http://www.synthesisters.com/hypermail/max-
msp/Mar05/23158.html>. I would have preferred to cite David’s
original message explaining correct deallocation strategy, but I’m
not finding it quickly.

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Great, that means it was not a bad idea to put some time in SPEAR :)

>
> I plan to expand the Tutorials with comments on analysis in the near future. Realtime analysis is much trickier than using SPEAR or AddAn or Loris

I bet. But only doing offline analysis in an external, have it fire a bang and load SDIF data in SDIF-buffer when done would be crazy too :)

– if you have access to the iana~ object, of IRCAM, that is promising.

I am afraid I don’t have very much contact with IRCAM. Met a few ppl during 2 meetings of NAG (Nederlands Akoestisch Gezelschap) I attended but that’s about it.

>
> mz
—————————————————-

I’ve posted an updated version of my tutorials that turns off DSP before automagically disposing of patches. This is a workaround for the resonators~ crashes.

http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/MAX/downloads/

Unfortunately the resonators~ bug is a little more involved than the dsp_free() problem that several have been kind to point out.

I’ve just verified that AudioSculpt 2.6.1 is writing SDIFs in a way that the CNMAT externals are unable to read.

While on the subject of anaylsis, the idea of an external that does a non-realtime analysis in Max, and then spits it out when finished, is pretty interesting. That really isn’t Max’s Modus Operandi, though. A clever person could record incoming audio to a soundfile, use shell or applescript to open and analyse that in another application, save that data to an SDIF, and open it in Max. Knowing when the other app is done could be tricky.

Also, one should know that the analyses I provided in the tutorials took a fair amount of hand tweaking to get to the point they are at.

mzed

But its exactly what would be needed to close the gap between the power
of nonrealtime processing with Max. One approach could be to use mxj. It
should be easy for an external to just write the calculation into a
buffer~ and bang when ready, or even spit out a “position” value how far
it got so far. You can play parts of a buffer before its finished
writing the result into it. All this can be done in a low priority
thread… (or on a second processor)

Stefan

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> But its exactly what would be needed to close the gap between the power of
> nonrealtime processing with Max. One approach could be to use mxj. It should
> be easy for an external to just write the calculation into a buffer~ and bang
> when ready, or even spit out a “position” value how far it got so far. You
> can play parts of a buffer before its finished writing the result into it.
> All this can be done in a low priority thread… (or on a second processor)

Has anyone managed to do this, not just in mxj necessarily but in a
generic external? I tried fooling with some threads and semaphores to get
[maxlisp] a little less brittle (tail recursion does really bad things to
any semblance of real-time), but I continued to get what appeared to be
timer crashes. But I also don’t fully understand how the various max
thread priorities work.

brad

http://music.columbia.edu/~brad

Up till now we didn’t find a way to automatically increase this chunk size to utilize the processor maximally without causing clicks, but since we don’t need the results in a fixed amount of time that doesn’t form a real problem.

Mattijs