Conditional switches

Sep 26, 2006 at 11:08pm

Conditional switches

I’m currently working on an installation where i want
only certain switches in the interface to be
selectable at a time.

When one switch is pulled it makes itself unselectable
and makes the just the switch set below it selectable.

Can anybody help me?

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#27820
Sep 27, 2006 at 8:52am

Do you mean switches in real life or on max itself? either way you probably want to be looking at the gate object. You could have it so that pulling switch a will open a gate giving access to B and C. or Switch would work under a similar princible.

As for making the top switch unselectable, you could probably use mypatcher inside max to make it invisible once on or in real life could probably use another gate to stop it doing the on and offing. Let me know if you need further assistance – maybe post a patch?
T

#84667
Sep 27, 2006 at 9:16am

If you use matrix~ or router, (depending on whether you’re switching signals or control data) instead of gate~/gate or selector~/switch, then you can use matrixctrls, which allow you to enable/disable individual cells,
cheers
Roger

#84668
Oct 22, 2006 at 5:08am

Indeed, to follow up, is there a way to send “enable” / “disable” messages to interactive objects? Like selecting “Ignore Click” / “Respond to Click” in the drop-down, but instead, having these options available and changeable in runtime by the user? (I know some objects support this, but certainly not all.)

We can do “Can’t Change” in number boxes using the right flag message, but that seems to be the extent of it…. for most objects, anyway. An “active” / “inactive” message would be great for lots of objects, most notably the toggle….

–CJ

#84669
Oct 22, 2006 at 8:40am

This is indeed annoying in Max. Only some UI objects, like
[radiogroup], understand an “inactive $1″ message. For the others, if
you want a nice interface, you have to change their color with color
messages (using light grey rather than black, etc.), which is btw not
always possible (as with [toggle]), and ask them to ignore clicks with
a small script (see [thispatcher]‘s help).

In the case of [toggle], if you want to change its color, then you can
use a [bpatcher] and move its contents to a place with a picture that
represent a [toggle] in a diffferent color (you’ll have to draw it
yourself). Or use [jsui], or maybe Imageburger?

p

#84670
Oct 22, 2006 at 9:07am

check out jasch’s MTX object.

#84671
Oct 22, 2006 at 12:51pm

#84672
Oct 23, 2006 at 5:54am

Seejay James wrote:
> Indeed, to follow up, is there a way to send “enable” / “disable”
> messages to interactive objects? Like selecting “Ignore Click” /
> “Respond to Click” in the drop-down, but instead, having these
> options available and changeable in runtime by the user? (I know some
> objects support this, but certainly not all.)

They are, all inspectors are patches, you can open them and find out how
they do their magic. Then copy the methods…

> We can do “Can’t Change” in number boxes using the right flag
> message, but that seems to be the extent of it…. for most objects,
> anyway. An “active” / “inactive” message would be great for lots of
> objects, most notably the toggle….

like the lower button? – hey this is Max, just do what you need…
And the toggle is simple but ugly, if you think of users, just create
something more pleasant with all the features you need, put it into a
bpatcher and save it as prototype. This will be better than anything
cycling could come up with, you have to do it anyway…

#P window setfont “Sans Serif” 9.;
#P window linecount 1;
#N thispatcher;
#Q end;
#P hidden newobj 223 191 64 196617 thispatcher;
#P hidden message 270 159 82 196617 script show t;
#P hidden newex 270 138 20 196617 b;
#P hidden message 224 160 82 196617 script hide t;
#P hidden newex 224 139 20 196617 b;
#P message 270 118 42 196617 disable;
#P message 224 118 42 196617 enable;
#P toggle 163 120 15 0;
#P hidden user ubutton 161 151 18 18 0 0;
#P objectname t;
#P toggle 163 152 15 0;
#P hidden connect 6 0 9 0;
#P hidden connect 8 0 9 0;
#P hidden connect 4 0 7 0;
#P hidden connect 7 0 8 0;
#P hidden connect 3 0 5 0;
#P hidden connect 5 0 6 0;
#P connect 2 0 0 0;
#P window clipboard copycount 10;


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#84673
Oct 24, 2006 at 7:19am

Holy cow! I’m an idiot, of course, there it is in thispatcher, ignore/respond. I think I’ve even probably used it before. Damn this failing brain…

The bpatcher button/toggle/indicator idea is great. Should have done this months ago. Made it usable through clicking or as an indicator (like in a beat grid)… and user can control colors. Nice!

-CJ

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