Controling CueMix with MAX?

Apr 5, 2007 at 11:20pm

Controling CueMix with MAX?

Hello there Max List:

Does any of you know how to control the faders in MOTU’s CueMix using
Max or (more to the point) an external MIDI fader? I’m so excited
about my new ability to split out my unprocessed voice from my Max
processing using the separate outputs on the UltraLite, and I love it
that I can replace my mixer with CueMix and my internal Max Faders,
but I hate having to use the mouse to make sudden adjustments in my
voice level.

I can control all my MAX faders with my MIDI faders (the lovely Plexi
ones that Donald Swearingen built me), but I can’t figure out how to
get one of those faders to talk to CueMix, which is where the level
for my unprocessed voice is. Any ideas?

(I tried to find this subject in the Max archives, but I only found
someone asking the question in 2004 and not getting any responses.)

cheers,

Pamela

Pamela Z
Composer/Performer

Contact info:

Telephone: 415.861.EARS (415.861.3277)
Mobile: 415.5PAMELA (415.572.6352)
FAX: 415.861.FAKS (415.861.3257)
(I forward my land line to my mobile phone when I’m travelling)

pamelaz@pamelaz.com
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http://www.myspace.com/pamelazcomposer

Skype: pamelazed AIM: pamelazdotcom

Snail Mail:
Pamela Z Productions
540 Alabama Street Studio 213
San Francisco, CA 94110, USA

shipping address (for packages larger than a 9″ x 12″ envelope):
Pamela Z 2440 Sixteenth Street PMB #171, San Francisco, CA 94103, USA

Pamela Z’s CD “A Delay is Better” on the Starkland label is now
available at http://www.amazon.com, http://www.starkland.com, and in
stores near you.
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#31230
Apr 6, 2007 at 11:41am

On 6 Apr 2007, at 00:20, Pamela Z wrote:

> I can control all my MAX faders with my MIDI faders (the lovely
> Plexi ones that Donald Swearingen built me), but I can’t figure out
> how to get one of those faders to talk to CueMix, which is where
> the level for my unprocessed voice is. Any ideas?

The perceived wisdom is that CueMix cannot be automated, except using
one of the officially sanctioned control surfaces. I notice, however,
that some of the surfaces appear to be MIDI-based, so I guess it
would be possible to reverse-engineer one of them. (This would
probably violate the DMCA, however, should you care.)

Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited
http://www.cassiel.com
http://www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom
http://www.loadbang.net

#101162
Apr 6, 2007 at 4:33pm

Thanks for your thoughts, Nick.

pz

>On 6 Apr 2007, at 00:20, Pamela Z wrote:
>
>>I can control all my MAX faders with my MIDI faders (the lovely
>>Plexi ones that Donald Swearingen built me), but I can’t figure out
>>how to get one of those faders to talk to CueMix, which is where
>>the level for my unprocessed voice is. Any ideas?
>
>The perceived wisdom is that CueMix cannot be automated, except
>using one of the officially sanctioned control surfaces. I notice,
>however, that some of the surfaces appear to be MIDI-based, so I
>guess it would be possible to reverse-engineer one of them. (This
>would probably violate the DMCA, however, should you care.)
>
>
>Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited
>http://www.cassiel.com
>http://www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom
>http://www.loadbang.net
>
>
>

Pamela Z
Composer/Performer

Contact info:

Telephone: 415.861.EARS (415.861.3277)
Mobile: 415.5PAMELA (415.572.6352)
FAX: 415.861.FAKS (415.861.3257)
(I forward my land line to my mobile phone when I’m travelling)

pamelaz@pamelaz.com
http://www.pamelaz.com

http://www.myspace.com/pamelazcomposer

Skype: pamelazed AIM: pamelazdotcom

Snail Mail:
Pamela Z Productions
540 Alabama Street Studio 213
San Francisco, CA 94110, USA

shipping address (for packages larger than a 9″ x 12″ envelope):
Pamela Z 2440 Sixteenth Street PMB #171, San Francisco, CA 94103, USA

Pamela Z’s CD “A Delay is Better” on the Starkland label is now
available at http://www.amazon.com, http://www.starkland.com, and in
stores near you.
…………………………………………………………………………………………

#101163
Apr 10, 2007 at 9:14am

Nick Rothwell schrieb:
> I notice, however, that some of the surfaces appear to be MIDI-based,
> so I guess it would be possible to reverse-engineer one of them.
> (This would probably violate the DMCA, however, should you care.)

I can’t imagine that a Midi stream can have a copyright, and if, the
copyright would belong to the person who moves the faders, not the
company which made the fader box…
(Food for attorneys which care more about laws than rights… ;-)

Stefan


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#101164
Apr 10, 2007 at 4:02pm

At 11:14 AM +0200 4/10/07, Stefan Tiedje wrote:
>I can’t imagine that a Midi stream can have a copyright,

Not quite the same, but… the original Logic Control had a secret handshake. If your host software didn’t know how to return the secret handshake, the Logic Control would balk, and not send any more data.

-C


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#101165
Apr 10, 2007 at 9:16pm

On 10 Apr 2007, at 10:14, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

> I can’t imagine that a Midi stream can have a copyright, and if,
> the copyright would belong to the person who moves the faders, not
> the company which made the fader box…

Well, the protocol can be covered by an NDA (as is the case with the
CM Motor-Mix, for example).

Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited
http://www.cassiel.com
http://www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom
http://www.loadbang.net

#101166
Apr 14, 2007 at 4:51pm

Nick Rothwell schrieb:
> Well, the protocol can be covered by an NDA (as is the case with the CM
> Motor-Mix, for example).

But this affects only those who signed it…
And unless its encrypted it should be no problem to find out…

Stefan


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