Pamela Z

Does any of you know how to control the faders in MOTU's CueMix using 

Max or (more to the point) an external MIDI fader? I'm so excited 

about my new ability to split out my unprocessed voice from my Max 

processing using the separate outputs on the UltraLite, and I love it 

that I can replace my mixer with CueMix and my internal Max Faders, 

but I hate having to use the mouse to make sudden adjustments in my 

I can control all my MAX faders with my MIDI faders (the lovely Plexi 

ones that Donald Swearingen built me), but I can't figure out how to 

get one of those faders to talk to CueMix, which is where the level 

(I tried to find this subject in the Max archives, but I only found 

someone asking the question in 2004 and not getting any responses.)

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Does any of you know how to control the faders in MOTU's CueMix using 
Max or (more to the point) an external MIDI fader?  I'm so excited 
about my new ability to split out my unprocessed voice from my Max 
processing using the separate outputs on the UltraLite, and I love it 
that I can replace my mixer with CueMix and my internal Max Faders, 
but I hate having to use the mouse to make sudden adjustments in my 
voice level.

I can control all my MAX faders with my MIDI faders (the lovely Plexi 
ones that Donald Swearingen built me), but I can't figure out how to 
get one of those faders to talk to CueMix, which is where the level 
for my unprocessed voice is.  Any ideas?

(I tried to find this subject in the Max archives, but I only found 
someone asking the question in 2004 and not getting any responses.)

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> I can control all my MAX faders with my MIDI faders (the lovely 

> Plexi ones that Donald Swearingen built me), but I can't figure out 

> how to get one of those faders to talk to CueMix, which is where 

> the level for my unprocessed voice is. Any ideas?

The perceived wisdom is that CueMix cannot be automated, except using 

one of the officially sanctioned control surfaces. I notice, however, 

that some of the surfaces appear to be MIDI-based, so I guess it 

would be possible to reverse-engineer one of them. (This would 

probably violate the DMCA, however, should you care.)

> I can control all my MAX faders with my MIDI faders (the lovely  
> Plexi ones that Donald Swearingen built me), but I can't figure out  
> how to get one of those faders to talk to CueMix, which is where  
> the level for my unprocessed voice is.  Any ideas?

The perceived wisdom is that CueMix cannot be automated, except using  
one of the officially sanctioned control surfaces. I notice, however,  
that some of the surfaces appear to be MIDI-based, so I guess it  
would be possible to reverse-engineer one of them. (This would  
probably violate the DMCA, however, should you care.)

Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited
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>On 6 Apr 2007, at 00:20, Pamela Z wrote:

>>I can control all my MAX faders with my MIDI faders (the lovely 

>>Plexi ones that Donald Swearingen built me), but I can't figure out 

>>how to get one of those faders to talk to CueMix, which is where 

>>the level for my unprocessed voice is. Any ideas?

>The perceived wisdom is that CueMix cannot be automated, except 

>using one of the officially sanctioned control surfaces. I notice, 

>however, that some of the surfaces appear to be MIDI-based, so I 

>guess it would be possible to reverse-engineer one of them. (This 

>would probably violate the DMCA, however, should you care.)

>On 6 Apr 2007, at 00:20, Pamela Z wrote:
>
>>I can control all my MAX faders with my MIDI faders (the lovely 
>>Plexi ones that Donald Swearingen built me), but I can't figure out 
>>how to get one of those faders to talk to CueMix, which is where 
>>the level for my unprocessed voice is.  Any ideas?
>
>The perceived wisdom is that CueMix cannot be automated, except 
>using one of the officially sanctioned control surfaces. I notice, 
>however, that some of the surfaces appear to be MIDI-based, so I 
>guess it would be possible to reverse-engineer one of them. (This 
>would probably violate the DMCA, however, should you care.)
>
>
>Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited
>www.cassiel.com
>www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom
>www.loadbang.net
>
>
>

> I notice, however, that some of the surfaces appear to be MIDI-based,

> so I guess it would be possible to reverse-engineer one of them.

> (This would probably violate the DMCA, however, should you care.)

I can't imagine that a Midi stream can have a copyright, and if, the 

copyright would belong to the person who moves the faders, not the 

(Food for attorneys which care more about laws than rights... ;-)

Nick Rothwell schrieb:
> I notice, however, that some of the surfaces appear to be MIDI-based,
> so I guess it would be possible to reverse-engineer one of them.
> (This would probably violate the DMCA, however, should you care.)

I can't imagine that a Midi stream can have a copyright, and if, the 
copyright would belong to the person who moves the faders, not the 
company which made the fader box...
(Food for attorneys which care more about laws than rights... ;-)

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At 11:14 AM +0200 4/10/07, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

>I can't imagine that a Midi stream can have a copyright,

Not quite the same, but... the original Logic Control had a secret handshake. If your host software didn't know how to return the secret handshake, the Logic Control would balk, and not send any more data.

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 | and radicals always argue." - Brian Eno

At 11:14 AM +0200 4/10/07, Stefan Tiedje wrote:
>I can't imagine that a Midi stream can have a copyright,

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On 10 Apr 2007, at 10:14, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

> I can't imagine that a Midi stream can have a copyright, and if, 

> the copyright would belong to the person who moves the faders, not 

> the company which made the fader box...

Well, the protocol can be covered by an NDA (as is the case with the 

> I can't imagine that a Midi stream can have a copyright, and if,  
> the copyright would belong to the person who moves the faders, not  
> the company which made the fader box...

Well, the protocol can be covered by an NDA (as is the case with the  
CM Motor-Mix, for example).

> Well, the protocol can be covered by an NDA (as is the case with the CM 

But this affects only those who signed it...

And unless its encrypted it should be no problem to find out...

Nick Rothwell schrieb:
> Well, the protocol can be covered by an NDA (as is the case with the CM 
> Motor-Mix, for example).

But this affects only those who signed it...
And unless its encrypted it should be no problem to find out...

Controling CueMix with MAX?