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		<title>Cycling 74  &#187;  Topic: Controlling non-MIDI-mappable parameters in Ableton</title>
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					<title><![CDATA[Controlling non-MIDI-mappable parameters in Ableton]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/controlling-non-midi-mappable-parameters-in-ableton-2/#post-56880</link>
					<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 21:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>sdh2125</dc:creator>

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						<p>Hi all,<br />
I&#8217;m relatively new to Max for Live and am mainly interested in its possibilities for hardware integration. I want to control some functions in Ableton that are not by default MIDI mappable with a controller; for instance, I want to scrub back and forth in the timeline with an encoder or zoom in and out of playhead position in the arrangement view.</p>
<p>After talking to Live tech support and doing some research, I came across this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cycling74.com/docs/max5/refpages/m4l-ref/m4l_live_object_model.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cycling74.com/docs/max5/refpages/m4l-ref/m4l_live_object_model.html</a></p>
<p>this page references some commands like zoom_view and scrub_by, but I have no idea how to access those or deal with them through Max for Live.</p>
<p>Any help is appreciated!</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Controlling non-MIDI-mappable parameters in Ableton]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/controlling-non-midi-mappable-parameters-in-ableton-2/#post-203898</link>
					<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 09:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>S4racen</dc:creator>

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						<p>Necrobump for this, does anyone know the syntax to get the zoom_view working?</p>
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<p>Cheers<br />
D</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Controlling non-MIDI-mappable parameters in Ableton]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/controlling-non-midi-mappable-parameters-in-ableton-2/#post-203899</link>
					<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>broc</dc:creator>

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						<p>According to LOM the syntax should be like this.</p>
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<div class="patchtoggleInfo"><small>Copy <b>all</b> of the following text.Then, in Max, select <em>New From Clipboard</em>.</small></div>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Controlling non-MIDI-mappable parameters in Ableton]]></title>
					<link>http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/controlling-non-midi-mappable-parameters-in-ableton-2/#post-203900</link>
					<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 08:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>S4racen</dc:creator>

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						<p>Awesome, thanks i&#8217;ll test when i get home!!</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
D</p>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>S4racen</dc:creator>

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						<p>Sadly thats exactly what i had, it doesn&#8217;t work&#8230; ANyone from Cycling can confirm this is a bug??</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
D</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Controlling non-MIDI-mappable parameters in Ableton]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>broc</dc:creator>

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						<p>Interestingly, it works for me when using &#8216;Arranger&#8217; as view_name but NOT with &#8216;Detail/Clip&#8217;.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s obviously a bug (or incomplete implementation).</p>
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					<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>S4racen</dc:creator>

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						<p>Interesting, as it states it works for Detail/Clip doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>This should be implemented in the current version before we start getting asked for money to upgrade to 6!</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
D</p>
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					<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 20:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>basvlk</dc:creator>

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						<p>Did you get this to work with live9 / max 6.1?</p>
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					<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2013 03:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>mooter</dc:creator>

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						<p>Been trying to get clip zooming and scrolling and it&#8217;s not working.  It says it should but I really don&#8217;t think they have it implemented.</p>
<p>Scrolling the browser is working great though:)<br />
But It would be really great to scroll and zoom inside the clip.  If you can do it with the mouse, you should do it with max.</p>
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