McSkelle

Transport is nice wireless DAW controller. 

It seems to send standard midi stuf to and from itself to control.

But also, very nice, is its build in support for certain programs. Cubase, Live, so...

When using one of these, the tranzport shows track info, metering, rec-arming, muting by using LEDs and smal LCD-display. This ability is what makes it a winner!

I wanna use max/msp to write something of my choise in the display, and flash the red light, and so on ... stuff :-)

Since I by pricible wanna build my "own" software from "scratch" using max/msp i dont wanna deal with major, but well supported, audio programs,

-I'm now facing the challenge of "back engeneering the Tranzport".

No problem so far in monitoring the Tranz's outputs to the software. I monitor all the incoming notes with MIDIOX. I choose the Tranz which seems to be a standard mididevice in/to OX.

I want to monitor of the outgoing codes from cubase/livee/etc to the Tranzport in hope of detecting wich codes is send to Tranz to control its display.

If you have any advice to me, i would be glad to here it.

If you yourself is walking in the same direction, I say we team up somehow.

Transport is nice wireless DAW controller. 
It seems to send standard midi stuf to and from itself to control.
But also, very nice, is its build in support for certain programs. Cubase, Live, so...

Since I by pricible wanna build my "own" software from "scratch" using max/msp i dont wanna deal with major, but well supported, audio programs, 

But the other direction is buggy for me.
I want to monitor of the outgoing codes from cubase/livee/etc to the Tranzport in hope of detecting wich codes is send to Tranz to control its display.

If you have any advice to me, i would be glad to here it.
If you yourself is walking in the same direction, I say we team up somehow.

controlling-tranzport-display-and-leds-from-maxmsp

I'd like to add, that somehow my message got send by accident, so my spelling/gramma is, to say the least, challengin :-/

Can't seem to find an "edit"-button to press!

I'd like to add, that somehow my message got send by accident, so my spelling/gramma is, to say the least, challengin :-/
Can't seem to find an "edit"-button to press!
scuzzi!
t


i know what you're trying. But what the other DAW send to your 

Controller is pure sysex and you won't catch it unless you use realtime 

sysex editor. Meanwhile, look for the Midi Implementation scheets that 

should be somewhere on the manufacturer site.

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> I'd like to add, that somehow my message got send by accident, so my spelling/gramma is, to say the least, challengin :-/

> Can't seem to find an "edit"-button to press!

i know what you're trying. But what the other DAW send to your 
Controller is pure sysex and you won't catch it unless you use realtime 
sysex editor. Meanwhile, look for the Midi Implementation scheets that 
should be somewhere on the manufacturer site.

f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
> >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|

Thomas wrote:
> I'd like to add, that somehow my message got send by accident, so my spelling/gramma is, to say the least, challengin :-/
> Can't seem to find an "edit"-button to press!
> scuzzi!
> t
>
>


I got the SysEx codes pumping in MIDIox - an allround monitoring tool. I stream the outcoing commands from the DAW (Live demo 6...something) to an vitual midi device.

The output from the virtuel device is chosen as the monitored input in MidiOx. So i have a comple overview of the trafic to/and from the Tranzport device.

At the same time i got the very well-written implementation desciption from the manufactorer.

So now i'm kind of set to go, but I'm completely new to the max/msp-thing. It seem very simple to dig and true to its ideas, but its also kind hard to know where to start.

Should I perhaps just consider moddelling as i would in hardware?

-Do u wiz's look on hardware-diagrams when u're lost?

I'm now able to send one specific line of text to be written in the LED display of the controller, Tranzport.

Here goes: f0 00 01 40 10 00 14 48 65 6c 6c 6f 20 57 6f 72 6c 64 f7

This should write "hello world" to the lower linie of the two line display. (check link to doc at the end of message)

My goal is to be able to send specific SysEx to complement some kind of adjustment on the controller. Lets say u push a button.

I can catch that, but from here and to sende the SYSex say "button pressed" is some distance i guess.

To me its the max/msp consiousness I think I need to develop. How much should I build myself, how to formalize theese things in a "reasoneble"/optimal manner???

I can, kind off, hardcode ONE specific example, for instance sending the above SysEX using the sysformat-object, but how do i put all theese different messages in a system.

How tomake a typewriter-thing for instance. Press "S" on my PC-keybord, a send that to display.

Of cause its imperativ to me to experience some of this myself, as I recon that that itself to be the biggest "feature" of the idea max/msp. That, if u build it yourself, u only have what u need so you cant get lost or confused at performances, and your kind of garanteed to understand the processes so much better when your interacting with it.

I'm musician and i'm builing a complete soundsystem for my band. Audio loop system (2x4 channels in/out), reels spinning at different lenghts, with on-the-fly overdubs,reverses, echoes i guess, almost no midinotes for music, and ALOT of controlling hardware to interact with.

Properbly using VST for effects. I understand max/msp somehow facilitates this.

Also i need to develop a very specific interface to this max/msp-patches running on prob. touchscreen monitor on the scene as a center for the complete system.

I started by SELECTING my favourit hardware, i guess like instruments i chose the one that i like to play with - letting the hands decide without thinking to much about anything but that, and now im building the soundsystem to ADAPT to me and my already made choices.

A guy recommende this max/msp - so far it seems like just right.

I consider this as work that i plan to finish, and then i dont expect to experiment very much from there. Instead i intend to return to the scene and perform more shows. 

The demands to the system is, in fact very specific.

I have sooo many experiences on standard DAW systems where something happens idont understand - so i cant really interact with it in a controlled manner...

Check it, heres the nice doc from the controller manufactorer:

http://www.frontierdesign.com/download/pdf/TranzPort/TranzPort_Native_1_3.pdf

I got the SysEx codes pumping in MIDIox - an allround monitoring tool. I stream the outcoing commands from the DAW (Live demo 6...something) to an vitual midi device.
The output from the virtuel device is chosen as the monitored input in MidiOx. So i have a comple overview of the trafic to/and from the Tranzport device.

Should I perhaps just consider moddelling as i would in hardware?
-is that a usable rule of thumb?
-Do u wiz's look on hardware-diagrams when u're lost?

Here goes: f0 00 01 40 10 00 14 48 65 6c 6c 6f 20 57 6f 72 6c 64 f7
This should write "hello world" to the lower linie of the two line display. (check link to doc at the end of message)

My goal is to be able to send specific SysEx to complement some kind of adjustment on the controller. Lets say u push a button.
I can catch that, but from here and to sende the SYSex say "button pressed" is some distance i guess.

I can, kind off, hardcode ONE specific example, for instance sending the above SysEX using the sysformat-object, but how do i put all theese different messages in a system.
How tomake a typewriter-thing for instance. Press "S" on my PC-keybord, a send that to display. 

I'm musician and i'm builing a complete soundsystem for my band. Audio loop system (2x4 channels in/out), reels spinning at different lenghts, with on-the-fly overdubs,reverses, echoes i guess, almost no midinotes for music, and ALOT of controlling hardware to interact with.
Properbly using VST for effects. I understand max/msp somehow facilitates this.
Also i need to develop a very specific interface to this max/msp-patches running on prob. touchscreen monitor on the scene as a center for the complete system.

A guy recommende this max/msp - so far it seems like just right.
I consider this as work that i plan to finish, and then i dont expect to experiment very much from there. Instead i intend to return to the scene and perform more shows. 
The demands to the system is, in fact very specific.

I have sooo many experiences on standard DAW systems where something happens idont understand - so i cant really interact with it in a controlled manner...
This DONT work for a musician!

Check it, heres the nice doc from the controller manufactorer:
http://www.frontierdesign.com/download/pdf/TranzPort/TranzPort_Native_1_3.pdf


> -I'm now facing the challenge of "back engeneering the Tranzport".

Did you ask them? It might be easier than you think, looking at their 

website they seem to collect applications which are supported, I am sure 

they give you all information you need, then they can include MaxMSP as 

Thomas wrote:
> -I'm now facing the challenge of "back engeneering the Tranzport".

Did you ask them? It might be easier than you think, looking at their 
website they seem to collect applications which are supported, I am sure 
they give you all information you need, then they can include MaxMSP as 
well...

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They have varoius documentents, and the one i link to, is quite complete as I see it.

Stefan
nahhh..
I'd say that part is well done now.
They have varoius documentents, and the one i link to, is quite complete as I see it.


> Stefan nahhh.. I'd say that part is well done now. They have varoius

> documentents, and the one i link to, is quite complete as I see it.

Yeah, realised that, can't keep up with reading the list, just too much

> My goal is to be able to send specific SysEx to complement some kind 

> of adjustment on the controller. Lets say u push a button. I can

> catch that, but from here and to sende the SYSex say "button pressed"

But maybe concerning this other question that might help:

Thomas wrote:
> Stefan nahhh.. I'd say that part is well done now. They have varoius
> documentents, and the one i link to, is quite complete as I see it.

Yeah, realised that, can't keep up with reading the list, just too much
traffic, its happening in chunks...

> My goal is to be able to send specific SysEx to complement some kind 
> of adjustment on the controller. Lets say u push a button. I can
> catch that, but from here and to sende the SYSex say "button pressed"
> is some distance i guess.

Controlling Tranzport display and LEDs from Max/msp