Cycling 74 » Topic: Cornerpins and keystone http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/feed Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:38:58 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.2.4 http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-58511 <![CDATA[Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-58511 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 08:26:31 +0000 Eric L. Hi there,
please first excuse me for my approximative english.
I red some topics about keystone and cornerpins :
http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=31853
http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=29097
http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=27431
http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=27059
http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=22732
…

It appears to me that the result does not follow the perspective's rules. I mean that using jit.gl.mesh or jit.gl.nurbs is not a proper solution to achieve a keystone : it creates distortion on the source that are not acceptable.
Have a look at my examples below (2).
Beside, of course, using jit.gl.videoplane (3) produces correct results.
And there's a tool in Photoshop, named 'distortion' (in the french version), that allows you to use cornerpins and produces a correct result (4).

So, my questions are :
Is there some jitter object which could make correct keystone by using cornerpins ?
or
Any idea what sort of maths I should implement into a patch using jit.gl.nurbs to get the good result ?

Many thanks,
Cheers,
Eric

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]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210249 <![CDATA[Re: Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210249 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:33:11 +0000 kugelschreiber Hello Eric,

Thanks for addressing this bug.
It was already discussed here:

http://cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=29967

But there seems not a proper solution.
Hopefully cycling will fix these bug soon.
Or is it a feature :-)

Best,
KS

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210250 <![CDATA[Re: Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210250 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:36:11 +0000 Eric L. Thanks KS,
it does not appear to me as a bug, but it would be a nice feature.
Waiting for Cycling’74 is nice, but does anyone have an idea about some maths that could be implemented in a .maxpat ?

Cheers,
Eric

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210251 <![CDATA[Re: Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210251 Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:51:48 +0000 dupecom Hello,

I think this is definitly a bug.
There is no software on the market,
which deforms the content in that way.
i personally testet: Photoshop, Final Cut Pro, After Effects, Module8, Resolume, Open Frameworks …

Is there someone, who needs this strange deformation ?

From my point of view this should be fixed.

Just my 2 cents,
d.

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210252 <![CDATA[Re: Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210252 Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:47:34 +0000 dupecom here is a sample project with sources, how to do a proper distortion with openframeworks:

http://forum.openframeworks.cc/index.php?topic=1488.0

here is a screenshot made with this project: flag_openframeworks.jpg

perhaps you can do your project with of.
its a shame, that we can not manage such a simple job with jitter :-(

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]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210253 <![CDATA[Re: Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210253 Sat, 20 Aug 2011 13:24:27 +0000 Eric L. Many thanks dupecom.
Unfortunatly, I’m unable to do anything with c++.
But perhaps someone could implement this code into a max object that could be named jit.keystone ?
That would be so nice !

Eric

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210254 <![CDATA[Re: Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210254 Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:01:09 +0000 FP +1 for the jit.gl.keystone

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210255 <![CDATA[Re: Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210255 Thu, 25 Aug 2011 10:58:49 +0000 timtom Hello C74,

I am a jitter user and i want to realise a video mapping project this year.
For doing this it is very important to have a proper keystone distortion of
the movies.

My question is: Are you going to fix this issue with the next version of max ?
It would be great to get an answer, so i could plan which technology i have to use.

Best,
T

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210256 <![CDATA[Re: Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210256 Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:49:23 +0000 Eric L. I’m interested in this answer too, for similar reasons.
Cheers,
Eric

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210257 <![CDATA[Re: Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210257 Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:55:34 +0000 timtom Perhaps an easy solution would be to let us adjust the corners of a jit.gl.videoplane.

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210258 <![CDATA[Re: Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210258 Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:21:46 +0000 FP +1 for this feature on videoplane and others. :-)
for same reasons than others. ;-)

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210259 <![CDATA[Re: Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210259 Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:43:53 +0000 Eric L. I’m so pleased to see there’s so many people interested in this feature.
Working with videoplane would be less interesting than with nurbs : for video mapping, you also need to be able to adjust barrel correction and some other geometry.
The more advanced solution is probably the Watchout’s tool (have a look at the .pdf below). Well, license is EUR 1624,00 per computer…

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210260 <![CDATA[Re: Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210260 Fri, 26 Aug 2011 02:13:05 +0000 Eric L. Our team presents a monumental show these days, with video mapping, lights, sound and pyro. You can see some photographies here :
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Couleurs-dEté-2011-à-Laon-02/235710029804812?sk=wal
or here :

http://www.ondine-evenement.fr/

Place : Laon’s cathedral, Laon 02, France
Projection with 4 Barco
4 mac mini to display the movies
I created the soft that drives the show thanks to MaxMSP/Jitter. Server and clients, via ethernet. A Macbook Pro drives the 4 mac mini via timecoding, and add geometry correction thanks to jit.gl.nurbs. It drives ProTools (for the sound) via midi timecode and also send timecode for the DMX.
Finally, all is working perfectly.
Snapshots attached.

Cheers,

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]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210261 <![CDATA[Re: Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210261 Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:56:47 +0000 MJ hi

been doing videomapping with max for ±3 years now

-> http://www.vimeo.com/videomapping
all done with max/msp

at first i also tried do do it with nurbs or quads .
finaly i just culculated a vertex grid in a matrix and corrensponding texture matrix

can control the gui with my ipad by using touchosc

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]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210262 <![CDATA[Re: Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210262 Fri, 26 Aug 2011 23:43:46 +0000 Eric L. Hey, this one seems to be very interesting ! Nevertheless, I’m not sure to be able to reproduce… ???
What is the small form at bottom left standing for ?
Thanks,
Eric

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210263 <![CDATA[Re: Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210263 Sat, 27 Aug 2011 00:37:48 +0000 MJ the interface shows all of the mapped shapes at the same time . ( in this screenshot there are just 2)
I did do shows/setups with >20 shapes

like this one http://www.vimeo.com/1681586
which is done with two projectors

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210266 <![CDATA[Re: Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210266 Sun, 28 Aug 2011 12:55:58 +0000 jhdkfj39929 I also vote for the feature. Nice to hear that there are solutions out there but what about sharing them?

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210267 <![CDATA[Re: Cornerpins and keystone]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/cornerpins-and-keystone/#post-210267 Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:47:28 +0000 FP +1 for sharing. :-)

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