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Can anyone please explain how to create a collective and what needs to be included.

I have done this by using the create collective, included the java classes (not actual files), but then it appears the class files need to be sent and placed in max runtime folder as well as the mxf.

How would one wrap everything in one application or collective?

are there any extra problems with windows and JRE?

creating-mxf-collective-and-including-java-files

I built a collective, and I got the error : Could not load class 'myPackage.MyClass'

I tried 'include file...' ->MyClass.class

as well as 'include folder...' -> myPackage

How to 'embbed' the class files in an mxf?

I got the same problem.
I built a collective, and I got the error : Could not load class 'myPackage.MyClass'

I tried 'include file...' ->MyClass.class
as well as 'include folder...' -> myPackage
But that doesn't work.
How to 'embbed' the class files in an mxf?

I didn't find a way to include the classes in the mxj.

So to correct the "Could not load class ..." I just copied my classes/packages next to the mxj.

I didn't find a way to include the classes in the mxj.
I'm not sure it's possible to do so..

I just managed it yestesday (on mac os), while making my first standalone using mxj. And while there was already an old topic for this on this forum, it was a bit confusing to find the way :

the answer is in this old message from topher :

https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=85895&rid=0&S=8fa2a55008563dd97847b011b2b62d1d#msg_num_4

> and myapp/Contents/Resources/java/classes

> put the jars in lib and your classes in classes and it should 

> work. for package classes make sure you preserve the package

i took time to understand that i had to put "recv.class" in myapp/Contents/Resources/java/classes/net/udp/recv.class ... simply because the mxj object name is net.udp.recv

working for me with a standalone. (for collective i don't know)

the answer is in this old message from topher :https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=85895&rid=0&S=8fa2a55008563dd97847b011b2b62d1d#msg_num_4

"
> you need to make the directory
> myapp/Contents/Resources/java/lib   
> and myapp/Contents/Resources/java/classes
> put the jars in lib and your classes in classes and it should 
> work. for package classes make sure you preserve the package
> directory structure.
"

i took time to understand that i had to put "recv.class" in myapp/Contents/Resources/java/classes/net/udp/recv.class  ... simply because the mxj object name is net.udp.recv 

I just see that I wrote mxj instead of mxf in my last post. sorry if it was confusing.

The procedure you describe to include the classes in a standalone is the usual one.

Unfortunately you can't do the same with collectives as they're not folders.

I just see that I wrote mxj instead of mxf in my last post. sorry if it was confusing.
The procedure you describe to include the classes in a standalone is the usual one.
Unfortunately you can't do the same with collectives as they're not folders.  

Sorry, newbie question: what is really the point of making a collective when you can make a standalone ?

A standalone contains the max runtime environment so users without max can run your patches. A collective doesn't include the runtime so you can send it to people who already have max (or the runtime). It just bundles in all the other subpatches and externals the file needs. This makes the collective format smaller. You'll notice that a standalone actually includes the collective .mxf inside it.

Creating mxf collective and including Java files