Nano59

i have some max patches that i would like to run in tracktion/ my music stuff. I understand one can make VST plugins from max patches i was just wondering how you did it?

i have some max patches that i would like to run in tracktion/ my music stuff.  I understand one can make VST plugins from max patches i was just wondering how you did it?

creating-vst-plugin-with-max-patch

cant find anything in the documentation...

Quote: Nano59 wrote on Wed, 11 April 2007 11:22

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> cant find anything in the documentation...

I recommend reading the documentation instead.

Quote: Nano59 wrote on Wed, 11 April 2007 11:22
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> cant find anything in the documentation... 

ive looked if you could tell me specifically which document then it would help :)

Try Max46Topics.pdf - pages 12-25 - You won't need to read all of it to get something working but it would still be adviseable.

On 11 avr. 07, at 12:55, Toiletmuck wrote:

> ive looked if you could tell me specifically which document then it 

https://cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/ProductDocumentation/

the link file is called "Pluggo Development Materials".

> ive looked if you could tell me specifically which document then it  
> would help :)

https://cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/ProductDocumentation/ 
WebHome#Pluggo

Quote: Nano59 wrote on Wed, 11 April 2007 12:55

> ive looked if you could tell me specifically which document then it would help :)

What about the second message in this thread?

Quote: Nano59 wrote on Wed, 11 April 2007 12:55
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> ive looked if you could tell me specifically which document then it would help :)
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I manages to figure it out but how does one make a user interface to be used in other music programs?

It's covered in the pluggo Dev guide. by opening the plugconfig object you can choose between the Max interface or pluggos egg sliders.

It's covered in the pluggo Dev guide.  by opening the plugconfig object you can choose between the Max interface or pluggos egg sliders.


yeh i figured this out, but when i run the plugin in my program, when i use the max interface the size of the patch is so large i cant see/access all of it..

if it is TOO LARGE TO SEE EVERYTHING try making it smaller.

At 5:14 AM -0600 4/19/07, Toiletmuck wrote:

>yeh i figured this out, but when i run the plugin in my program, 

>when i use the max interface the size of the patch is so large i 

Use the windowsize message within plugconfig, and then adjust the 

size of your patcher to taste, before turning it into a VST plugin

202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X / Major 

At 5:14 AM -0600 4/19/07, Toiletmuck wrote:
>yeh i figured this out, but when i run the plugin in my program, 
>when i use the max interface the size of the patch is so large i 
>cant see/access all of it..

Use the windowsize message within plugconfig, and then adjust the 
size of your patcher to taste, before turning it into a VST plugin
-- 
Dan Nigrin
Defective Records
202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X / Major 
Malfunction
http://www.defectiverecords.com
http://www.jackosx.com


Yeh i have tried this but the panel is too small for any reasonable patch that has many vital boxes to be tinkered with ;)

Quote: Nano59 wrote on Thu, 19 April 2007 08:16

> Yeh i have tried this but the panel is too small for any reasonable patch that has many vital boxes to be tinkered with ;)

Why don't you post your plugconfig text to the list? My bet is you have conflicting size messages which are limiting the size of your plugin... You should be able to make it as large/small as you want with the windowsize message...

Quote: Nano59 wrote on Thu, 19 April 2007 08:16
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> Yeh i have tried this but the panel is too small for any reasonable patch that has many vital boxes to be tinkered with ;)
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Why don't you post your plugconfig text to the list?  My bet is you have conflicting size messages which are limiting the size of your plugin... You should be able to make it as large/small as you want with the windowsize message...

Quote: Nano59 wrote on Thu, 19 April 2007 06:16

i am absolutely sure that if you make a plug-in window

did you say tracktion/windows is your host?

i only know T2/OSX and this one works, opens pluggo 

mayybe you have bad luck and something is incompatibe in your 

configuration, but for now check the spelling of you plugconfig

Quote: Nano59 wrote on Thu, 19 April 2007 06:16
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> Yeh i have tried this but the panel is too small for any reasonable patch that has many vital boxes to be tinkered with ;)
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i am absolutely sure that if you make a plug-in window
2560x1600 it will open up that wide.

i only know T2/OSX and this one works, opens pluggo 
windows of any size.

mayybe you have bad luck and something is incompatibe in your 
configuration, but for now check the spelling of you plugconfig
script and things like that.


#C useviews 1 1 1 1;
#C numprograms 8;
#C preempt 1;
#C sigvschange 1;
#C sigvsdefault 32;
#C autosize;
#C defaultview Interface 0 0 0;
#C dragscroll 1;
#C noinfo;
#C uniqueid 128 10 140;
#C initialpgm 1;


http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9050/exampleeb1.jpg

that's the size that appears to come up, as you cansee ive tried to cram all the stuff into that small area.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9050/exampleeb1.jpg 

that's the size that appears to come up, as you cansee ive tried to cram all the stuff into that small area.


Then just set the size of your patcher to your desired plugin window 

size, save the patcher, then build it into a plugin.

At 8:12 AM -0600 4/19/07, Toiletmuck wrote:

Then just set the size of your patcher to your desired plugin window 
size, save the patcher, then build it into a plugin.

At 8:12 AM -0600 4/19/07, Toiletmuck wrote:
>my plugin set up
>
>#C useviews 1 1 1 1;
>#C numprograms 8;
>#C preempt 1;
>#C sigvschange 1;
>#C sigvsdefault 32;
>#C autosize;
>#C defaultview Interface 0 0 0;
>#C dragscroll 1;
>#C noinfo;
>#C uniqueid 128 10 140;
>#C initialpgm 1;

-- 
Dan Nigrin
Defective Records
202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X / Major 
Malfunction
http://www.defectiverecords.com
http://www.jackosx.com


Oops, and also change the line that says:

This will make your plugin's graphical view the default view, rather than the egg slider view.

Don't forget to take a look at all these settings in the MSP Reference manual, under plugconfig.

dang, some of the plugins when used only come through one channel, does the sounds line have to go through both inputs and outputs of the [plugin~/out~] boxes?

At 10:11 AM -0600 4/19/07, Toiletmuck wrote:

>dang, some of the plugins when used only come through one channel, 

>does the sounds line have to go through both inputs and outputs of 

Yes. Page #302 of the MSP Reference Manual.

At 10:11 AM -0600 4/19/07, Toiletmuck wrote:
>dang, some of the plugins when used only come through one channel, 
>does the sounds line have to go through both inputs and outputs of 
>the [plugin~/out~] boxes?

Yes.  Page #302 of the MSP Reference Manual.
-- 
Dan Nigrin
Defective Records
202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X / Major 
Malfunction
http://www.defectiverecords.com
http://www.jackosx.com


Here is the download for pluggo: (per the first reply on this thread)

https://cycling74.com/downloads/older-discontinued/

what's the use of this Pluggo detour, when Max had the ability to export to VST directly before? Why has this feature been been deleted from the application? Is that a license issue with Ableton? Why are c74 not supporting customer's wishes directly?

since a while there is a huge interest in bringing back 7-8 years old posts here at the forums, often with no reasonable context.

Roman, that's mainly owed to the search feature using Google's erm "sense" for "relevant" posts ;) However, what's the current situation on VST plugin export, if i may ask? Using gen~?

Jayrope, the vst export mentionned in this thread 

 involve Pluggo. With gen, you can't export a vst direclty, although you can export a code inside gen to a c/c++ code which you can use inside a vst c/c++ code - afaik, there's nothing about the interface though. But maybe the gen code export can create a Xcode project even (not sure of that)

Jayrope, the vst export mentionned in this thread does involve Pluggo. With gen, you can't export a vst direclty, although you can export a code inside gen to a c/c++ code which you can use inside a vst c/c++ code - afaik, there's nothing about the interface though. But maybe the gen code export can create a Xcode project even (not sure of that)


There is also Plugtastic, though I'm not sure where that's got to...

There is also Plugtastic, though I'm not sure where that's got to...
http://74objects.com/plugtastic/
Cheers
Roger


creating VST plugin with max patch