Reso Kiknadze

a qouestion about cutting with waveform~ :

importing large soundfiles (wav or aiff, about 10 minutes long) into 

waveform and trying to 'crop' a selection causes max/msp to crash;

is it a bug or is there any size restiction?

importing large soundfiles (wav or aiff, about 10 minutes long) into  
waveform and trying to 'crop' a selection causes max/msp to crash;

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Reso Kiknadze
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D-23568 Luebeck
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cropping-large-soundfiles-in-waveform

I have certainly cropped samples longer than 10 minutes using waveform~ before and I can't see there being a size limit.

Post up your patch and then we may try it.

I have certainly cropped samples longer than 10 minutes using waveform~ before and I can't see there being a size limit. 

the maximum length of a soundfile that can be loaded and manipulated is dependent on how much RAM you have. if your sound file exceeds the available RAM of your system, you might crash max.

the maximum length of a soundfile that can be loaded and manipulated is dependent on how much RAM you have.  if your sound file exceeds the available RAM of your system, you might crash max. 

schould be enough for a 12min. long stereo wav od aiff sounfile...

i think it's some new thing to me too, i used to crop thme without 

and then, this one embedded in a bpahcer...

> the maximum length of a soundfile that can be loaded and 

> manipulated is dependent on how much RAM you have. if your sound 

> file exceeds the available RAM of your system, you might crash max.

hi andy,
i think it's some new thing to me too, i used to crop thme without  
any problems in former versions...

thanks for your help,
here are the patches,

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Reso Kiknadze
composition * saxophone * electronics
Eschenburgstr. 13a
D-23568 Luebeck
GERMANY
Phone/Fax: +49 451 3885946
Mobile: +49 173 3467966
Email: reso_k@web.de
URL: www.reso-kiknadze.de

>
> what version of max are you using
>
> the maximum length of a soundfile that can be loaded and  
> manipulated is dependent on how much RAM you have.  if your sound  
> file exceeds the available RAM of your system, you might crash max.
>
> what's the specs on your puter?

Maybe its worth to update to the newest version? (4.6.3) This is a good 

advice if something crashed. Nobody would be willing to investigate into 

something which might have been fixed already....

> and then, this one embedded in a bpahcer...

Your patch is probably even for yourself not self explaining, the part 

of steps to reproduce the crash are missing.

And if you can follow the patch cords yourself its fine, but imagine you 

would have to look at your own patch in lets say a year, would you, who 

made it, get how its working? And then imagine someone who didn't make it...

Reso Kiknadze schrieb:
> max 4.6
> g4 powerbook 1.68
> 1 GB RAM

Maybe its worth to update to the newest version? (4.6.3) This is a good 
advice if something crashed. Nobody would be willing to investigate into 
something which might have been fixed already....

> first  the waveform pathc itself,
>
> and then, this one embedded in a bpahcer...

Your patch is probably even for yourself not self explaining, the part 
of steps to reproduce the crash are missing.
And if you can follow the patch cords yourself its fine, but imagine you 
would have to look at your own patch in lets say a year, would you, who 
made it, get how its working? And then imagine someone who didn't make it...

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you're right, it's an old patch, written in my very newby time, looks 

i wanted to select the whole waveform left after croppin and did it 

in my beginner stupidity with 'delay' objekt, this seems to bring max 

now i just replaced it with 'trigger' (marked yellow in the corrected 

but thanks for your replay and remarks - i HAVE to change a lot;

especially - when i let the selection window 'walk' fast, it does 

not walk back smoothly - the otput is very clicky and noisy.

i should program it somehow cleaner and maybe look for another way 

for walking - this method with two counters and selection end- 

selection start substractions is also not quite clever, i guess...

Am 25.05.2007 um 10:22 schrieb Stefan Tiedje:

Maybe its worth to update to the newest version? (4.6.3) This is a 

good advice if something crashed. Nobody would be willing to 

investigate into something which might have been fixed already....

Your patch is probably even for yourself not self explaining, the 

part of steps to reproduce the crash are missing.

And if you can follow the patch cords yourself its fine, but imagine 

you would have to look at your own patch in lets say a year, would 

you, who made it, get how its working? And then imagine someone who 

you're right, it's an old patch, written in my very newby time, looks  
terrible, sorry for that...

i wanted to select the whole waveform left after croppin and did it  
in my beginner stupidity with 'delay' objekt, this seems to bring max  
to crash...
now i just replaced it with 'trigger' (marked yellow in the corrected  
patch) and it works...

but thanks for your replay and remarks - i HAVE to change a lot;
especially - when i let the selection window 'walk' fast,  it does  
not walk back smoothly - the otput is very clicky and noisy.
i should program it somehow cleaner and maybe look for another way  
for walking - this method with two counters and selection end- 
selection start substractions is also not quite clever, i guess...

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Reso Kiknadze
composition * saxophone * electronics
Eschenburgstr. 13a
D-23568 Luebeck
GERMANY
Phone/Fax: +49 451 3885946
Mobile: +49 173 3467966
Email: reso_k@web.de
URL: www.reso-kiknadze.de

Am 25.05.2007 um 10:22 schrieb Stefan Tiedje:
Reso Kiknadze schrieb:
max 4.6
g4 powerbook 1.68
1 GB RAM

Maybe its worth to update to the newest version? (4.6.3) This is a  
good advice if something crashed. Nobody would be willing to  
investigate into something which might have been fixed already....

first  the waveform pathc itself,
and then, this one embedded in a bpahcer...

Your patch is probably even for yourself not self explaining, the  
part of steps to reproduce the crash are missing.
And if you can follow the patch cords yourself its fine, but imagine  
you would have to look at your own patch in lets say a year, would  
you, who made it, get how its working? And then imagine someone who  
didn't make it...

-- 
Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
--_____-----------|--------------
--(_|_ ----|-----|-----()-------
-- _|_)----|-----()--------------
----------()--------www.ccmix.com

cropping large soundfiles in waveform~