is it possible to change the object palette? i assume so as soft.vns adds a few icons.
would come in really handy as I seldom use it besides the six leftmost objects.

thank you,

isjtar

ej

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well, then that can be considered a feature request.

i’d like to have any object (also 3rd party) to be placed at any location with a picture of my choosing as an icon.

and add to that shortcuts for inserting objects and messages, like in PD, the scripting way of doing it is too clumsy.

thank you

jlm

Yeah, User Interface objects.

The palette is there for User Interface objects. You write a UI object,
your user puts it into max-startup, and its in the palette. That’s what
Jitter does, that’s what SoftVNS does, that’s what iCE does, that’s
what Nato did, that’s what everyone else adding objects to the palette
does.

On around Feb 27, 2006, at 19:48, junior said something like:
> i’d like to have any object (also 3rd party) to be placed at any
> location with a picture of my choosing as an icon.

But that’s not what the UI palette is there for.

The palette is actually far more limiting than object boxes.

> and add to that shortcuts for inserting objects and messages, like in
> PD, the scripting way of doing it is too clumsy.

I take it you’re already making full use of Templates, Clippings,
Shortcuts, and Prototypes?

– P.

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ah, thanks for that…
> I take it you’re already making full use of Templates, Clippings,
> Shortcuts, and Prototypes?

i do, a key combination for new objects and messages would top it off.

the more time i spend on max, the more i want to optimize my workflow.
the clippings feature is a godsend, as is the extra’s folder.
making lots of general use patchers is nice too.
reminds me, better get into them shortcuts…

Fair ’nuff. To be honest, I hardly ever use shortcuts, despite having
built a massive list of them. And whenever I see someone pointing to Pd
as a model for user interaction… experience has taught to ask the
question that was asked.

> a key combination for new objects and messages would top it off.

There have been times when I would have liked to generate a new object
without grabbing the mouse. But, aside from the fact that Max already
has 30 menu shortcuts and who’s got time to memorize all of ‘em
rhetorical question mark, object creation is an intrinsically graphic
operation. You need some way to specify *where* to put down the new
bugger^W object box. And the way to specify a location in a patcher
window is that damn’ furless rodent.

I do option-drag a lot to create new objects, oftentime I select an
existing object and hit Cmd-D. Either way, type to replace the box
content. Don’t forget that you can type the name of a UI object into an
object box and heyprestobobsyeruncle. That includes typing the magic
incantation “message” (without the quotes) into an object box.

Now, if patch cords would just remain in place when transfiguring an
objbox into a messbox, *that* would be something worth begging Cycling
74 for.

Best — Peter

————– http://www.bek.no/~pcastine/Litter/ ————–
Peter Castine | ^
| Litter Power & Litter Bundle for Jitter
pcastine@gmx.net |
pcastine@bek.no | iCE: Sequencing, Recording, and Interface Building
4-15@kagi.com | for Max/MSP
| Extremely cool
| http://www.dspaudio.com
| http://www.dspaudio.com/software/software.html

didn’t know that, cool : )

> Now, if patch cords would just remain in place when transfiguring an
> objbox into a messbox, *that* would be something worth begging Cycling
> 74 for.

i’d like to have them signal cables a pixel slimmer too, they’re too fat, but that’s really nitpicking…

just checked out the toolbox and must say, it rocks!

need to adapt it though, number keys are a pain on azerty laprtopkeyboards, bloody french/belgian conspiracy : (

> i’d like to have them signal cables a pixel slimmer too, they’re
> too fat,

On the contrary: I’m sure Cycling ’74 could start a handy little
sideline in selling an upgrade to Max/MSP featuring extra-fat, low-
impedance patch cords. Of course, the longer the cord, the more it
would cost. And command-Y would have to be disabled: those right-
angle bends would really degrade the sound quality.

– N.

nick rothwell — composition, systems, performance — http://
http://www.cassiel.com

I do this all the time, you might have missed the paste replace? Wasn’t
it Emmanuel who wrote a script to add a shortcut for that function?
Search the archives and you’ll find it…

Its set to alt-opt-v on my keyboard.

Stefan

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Seriously, this is the only time i request anything to C74 but how could
they put this away for so long time ?! : just a file / preference /
keyboard shortcuts option, for god’s sake.
All the tricks like Toolbox or others scripts are nice but will never
replace user defined parameters coded IN the software. And i realy miss
the paste-replace shortcut. And i still don’t understand why there’s a
ctrl/apple-V for paste and no ctrl+shift+V for paste-replace… If you
can do it for one, you can do it for all.

best regards

f.e

best

f.e

anyway, I live in Brussels, speak dutch with other dutch speakers, when there is a french speaking person around we speak french and if there’s someone who speaks another tongue, we happily speak english together.
people themselves get along pretty well.

i’m really more concerned about extreme right wing anti-foreigner ideologies, though both are related.

best

isjtar

> anyway, I live in Brussels, speak dutch with other dutch speakers,
> when there is a french speaking person around we speak french and if
> there’s someone who speaks another tongue, we happily speak english
> together.
> people themselves get along pretty well.

I’ll be in Bxl for a couple of ars musica concerts (the 13/3 for a
percussion/max/msp concert, the 19/3 at bozar-terarken, at 11h, for a
piece with electronics, 2 “electric tp”, e-cello, kb – see
http://www.arsmusica.be/2006/nl/programma.asp). I’ll be behind the
mixing desk. Say hello if you’re around, so we can speak politics – but
it has to be in french, sorry :-)

p
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cool, I’ll try to get there

> it has to be in french, sorry :-)

damn francophones, don’t speak a damn word dutch ; )

maybe see you there, cheers