Default font and font size in m4l patches

Dec 14, 2010 at 8:25pm

Default font and font size in m4l patches

I would like to set the default font type and size for any new Object I am going make in a amxd patch. I know I can change it every time I create a patch for future Objects by editing in the Patcher Inspector but I want to set this once and for all. On my system here its Arial 13 reg in max Patches and Arial bold 10 in amxd which I don’t like too much used with my screen Resolution. Any Ideas? Or can this be scripted? Or can I find and change the new max Instrument patches created by live somewhere?

Thanks, Joerg

Dec 16, 2010 at 12:13am

Good question. Is this possible? Perhaps someone from C’74?

Dec 16, 2010 at 1:33pm


As far as I remember this is not possible, just like default colors in Mm4L.
The idea is that you use live.color to adapt your device colors to the theme

please correct me if I am wrong


Dec 18, 2010 at 11:31pm

the worst part is not being able to set the grid spacing.

I believe it ought to be possible to replace the default mfl patch, but I forget what the official response to that was.

It clearly gets asked alot, and it’s kind of frustrating to set max preferences that are blatantly ignored because – of course – the mfl device isn’t a “new patch”, it’s a preset… a near-empty annoying one.

Dec 19, 2010 at 12:06am

on mac it is:

Live > Contents > App-Resources > Misc > Max Devices.

…i would not recommend it for noobs though.

Dec 20, 2010 at 3:33am

Hi !
I’ve just visited this forum. Happy to get acquainted with you. Thanks.


Feb 19, 2011 at 10:26pm

I thought it was possible, but it doesn’t look like you can open the patches at the path you gave on a Mac. When I try to open them, Max comes to the front but nothing opens.

Have you done this yourself?

Feb 20, 2011 at 12:22pm

right-click on the ‘Live’ app and choose ‘show package contents’.

…i would not recommend it for noobs though.

Feb 20, 2011 at 1:07pm

it works fine for Grid and Font but i can’t change the unlocked background’s color.


Feb 20, 2011 at 7:38pm

@pid: Yes, I already opened and found the files, etc. When I right click them and select Open with Max, Max comes to the front but nothing opens. Anyone else have this issue?

Not a “noob” either. :)

@Olivier: what versions of Live/Max are you using?

Feb 20, 2011 at 8:16pm

HI wade,

they are max for live devices not Max patcher, hence the extensions .amxd

you have to open them in Live, edit them,change the default font via properties panel ( right click in the device bakground).

btw, I use Max 5.1.8 and Live Beta 8.2.2b3

good luck

Feb 20, 2011 at 11:29pm

wade, apologies. yes, what olivier said.

Feb 21, 2011 at 4:11am

Thanks Olivier & pid, I opened them via Live (which opens them in Max – which is where the confusion was), then just saved them to my desktop and replaced them in Works great now.

One strange thing is, I changed the background colours (locked and unlocked) of all of them
but only one of the three kept it’s locked colour. A little odd.

How did you get Max 5.1.8? Also, is the Live 8.2.2 beta pretty stable?

Feb 21, 2011 at 8:05am

you get max 518 when you update live beta, the link is beside.

I can’t tell for stability as I only ran a few tests with it so fare, I guess it is ok.


Feb 21, 2011 at 5:31pm


Do you have a link for the betas?

Feb 21, 2011 at 5:38pm

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