demo version 4.6 keeps crashing!

Apr 12, 2007 at 6:19pm

demo version 4.6 keeps crashing!

Hi,

I’m really new to max, and I’m trying to complete part of my dissertation using it.
I’m working on the demo version at the moment, but its being really temperamental. If I work on something and then save it and close it, it doesn’t work when I open it up again and it keeps closing down completely unprompted… seems to be when I press ‘stop’ or something…

is it my computer that doesn’t agree with max or is it max that doesn’t agree with my computer!?

I was considering buying the 9 month educational version, but I don’t want to spend the money if it still does this…

any help would be very much appreciated as my deadline is creeping ever closer!

Thanks

#31347
Apr 12, 2007 at 6:25pm

I just downloaded the demo as well, but haven’t installed it yet, so I’m not sure how it’s set up, but I know a lot of demo versions don’t allow you to save anything. This may not be the case with Max/MSP though.

However, you may want to list what kind of computer you have and its specs. so people can determine if that may be the cause.

#101736
Apr 12, 2007 at 6:34pm

Fair point…

my set up is

AMD 64 X2 2.8Ghz
Asus M2N-E MOBO
2Gb Kingston RAM
nVidia GeForce 7100GS graphics card
2x Maxtor SATA drives

I have just upgraded the system and despite a few teething problems it has been running fine for the last few weeks.

I had a brief check of the demo to see if it said it wouldn’t save but I could easily have missed something!

#101737
Apr 12, 2007 at 7:44pm

On 12 avr. 07, at 20:34, Lylt wrote:

>
> Fair point…
>
> my set up is
>
> AMD 64 X2 2.8Ghz
> Asus M2N-E MOBO
> 2Gb Kingston RAM
> nVidia GeForce 7100GS graphics card
> 2x Maxtor SATA drives
>
> I have just upgraded the system and despite a few teething problems
> it has been running fine for the last few weeks.
>
> I had a brief check of the demo to see if it said it wouldn’t save
> but I could easily have missed something!

Do you have java 1.6 installed?

ej

#101738
Apr 12, 2007 at 7:45pm

New user as well…

The demo is fully functional for 30 days, as far as I know it’s the exact same program as the full version. And I’ve had no problems on my PC so far. I’m working my way through the tutorials and doing some experiments with OSC and the Lemur. So no big projects this far.

-M

#101739
Apr 12, 2007 at 7:56pm

yep, java installed… as far as I can see no errors come up when it loads… although it has got to a point now where it loads up and then shuts its self down almost instantly :(

#101740
Apr 12, 2007 at 8:33pm

Emmanuel Jourdan skrev:
> Do you have java 1.6 installed?
>
> ej
Just having Java 1.6 definitely isn’t enough. At least one of the early
1.6 versions made Max quit during startup.The user has to download the
*very* latest version of Java, and even then I’m not sure it’s the best
thing, there might even be a need to roll back a bit?

Andreas.

#101741
Apr 12, 2007 at 8:34pm

On 12 avr. 07, at 21:56, Lylt wrote:

> yep, java installed… as far as I can see no errors come up when
> it loads… although it has got to a point now where it loads up
> and then shuts its self down almost instantly :(

If you have java installed, it’s a known issue. Try this (the second
step may not be required):

http://www.cycling74.com/forums/index.php?
t=msg&goto=95100&rid=0&S=65897a1b9b44f2d520fd78b971ea88a9&srch=Startup
+Crash+in+Vista#msg_99807

Cheers,
ej

#101742
Apr 12, 2007 at 8:38pm

#101743
Apr 12, 2007 at 9:15pm

I have just updated java earlier today, but the program was mis-behaving before that…. I’m not to clear on what to do with the information about;

“Next one on the list to check out is Java, and/or trying adding
jitter java-init 0; to a file named jitter-config.txt to prevent Java
from loading on launch. Search forums for more info or contact
support@cycling74.com.”

I have been using externals… the Granular Toolkit

http://www.nathanwolek.com/software.html

but I just deleted it and re-installed max… no difference…

I think you may all be right about the java, quick time connection as it loads the max part, but shuts down when it starts loading jitter.

Strange tho as it seems to have degenerated throughout the day.. gradually getting worse.

#101744
Apr 12, 2007 at 11:30pm

Hello,
Does MaxMSP crash without Jitter installed?

If not, the problem most likely QT or Java related. Do a clean install
of Java and the most recent Quicktime, and if you are still having
trouble, contact us at support at cycling74 dot com.

We’ll get you sorted out.

Andrew B.

Cycling ’74 Support

#101745
Apr 13, 2007 at 12:30am

hiya.

sounds like an odd problem. Is java essential for max to even install. you could try taking it off completely and deleteing all releated registries etc and then try doing a fresh max install. Again i understand QT isn’t ‘essential’ for max to run. I have used the 4.6 demo under WINE on a few different Linux distos without fail before and they have been lacking QT and Java.

One thing you could try if you havn’t already is installing the SDK version of java rather than teh run time. or vica versa if you use the SDK version normally.

Does max 4.5 work ok?

hope you ahve sucess

#101746
Apr 14, 2007 at 9:24am

hi,

thanks so much for all the suggestions.

I have got it sorted now, did a completely clean install of max and jitter and updated java and quick-time.

There was a slight scripting change I had to make in a text file to do with the Java garbage collection… but at least it loads up and works…

haven’t opened up an external on it yet tho!!! :)

thanks again

#101747

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