Reso Kiknadze

what can i do for entering lists and make detonate handle delta-times 

the list with a changed track number and delta time 0 is still 

appended *after* the entered material for the former track;

what can i do for entering lists and make detonate handle delta-times  
separately in different tracks?

the list with a changed track number and delta time 0 is still  
appended *after* the entered material for the former track;

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Reso Kiknadze
composition * saxophone * electronics
Eschenburgstr. 13a
D-23568 Luebeck
GERMANY
Phone/Fax: +49 451 3885946
Mobile: +49 173 3467966
Email: reso_k@web.de
URL: www.reso-kiknadze.de


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> what can i do for entering lists and make detonate handle delta-times 

Did you think about not using detonate at all (You could use a coll 

Or editing midi files in a different program like a dedicated sequencer 

Its not quite clear what your musical aim is. Sometimes the solution is 

Reso Kiknadze wrote:
> what can i do for entering lists and make detonate handle delta-times 
> separately in different tracks?

Did you think about not using detonate at all (You could use a coll 
construction for example)?
Or editing midi files in a different program like a dedicated sequencer 
and then just import it into detonate?

Its not quite clear what your musical aim is. Sometimes the solution is 
just on a different track...

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you are right, i have to sit down and check all that possibilities of 

coll and ordanize my list operations, sort them in ascending delta- 

tim order and then send them to detonate hopefully without some new 

my musical aim (actually just one of bunches of) at this time is, to 

find some automatization algorithm (doing it manually in former times 

was too slow and not versatile) for organizing musical material, 

gained from different non-musical categories that could inspire me in 

some way or stay in some connection with the composition i'm working 

in that moment (dimensions of a form, motion of several objects in 

space, letters of performer's names etc), which would form a basic 

rhythmic and melodic stuff, and get "melismated" in several layers 

etc etc. i am to lazy to learn standard midi file format and programm 

it howsoever; i love max, but all the three years i was working 

mostly msp for my improvising environment and missed a lot of 

algorithmic stuff of max... now it seems to be time for cathing up..

Am 14.02.2007 um 10:39 schrieb Stefan Tiedje:

>> what can i do for entering lists and make detonate handle delta- 

> Did you think about not using detonate at all (You could use a coll 

> Or editing midi files in a different program like a dedicated 

> sequencer and then just import it into detonate?

> Its not quite clear what your musical aim is. Sometimes the 

> solution is just on a different track...

you are right, i have to sit down and check all that possibilities of  
coll and ordanize my list operations, sort them in ascending delta- 
tim order and then send them to detonate hopefully without some new  
problems..
my musical aim (actually just one of bunches of) at this time is, to  
find some automatization algorithm (doing it manually in former times  
was too slow and not versatile)  for organizing musical material,  
gained from different non-musical categories that could inspire me in  
some way or stay in some connection with the composition i'm working  
in that moment (dimensions of a form, motion of several objects in  
space, letters of performer's names etc), which would form a basic  
rhythmic and melodic stuff, and get "melismated" in several layers  
etc etc. i am to lazy to learn standard midi file format and programm  
it howsoever; i love max, but all the three years i was working  
mostly msp for my improvising environment and missed a lot of  
algorithmic stuff of max... now it seems to be time for cathing up..

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Reso Kiknadze
composition * saxophone * electronics
Eschenburgstr. 13a
D-23568 Luebeck
GERMANY
Phone/Fax: +49 451 3885946
Mobile: +49 173 3467966
Email: reso_k@web.de
URL: www.reso-kiknadze.de

reso kiknadze
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musikhochschule luebeck

gr. petersgrube 17-29
23552 luebeck, germany

phone:  +49 451 1505-195
fax:    +49 451 1505-300
mobile: +49 173 3467966

> Reso Kiknadze wrote:
>> what can i do for entering lists and make detonate handle delta- 
>> times separately in different tracks?
>
> Did you think about not using detonate at all (You could use a coll  
> construction for example)?
> Or editing midi files in a different program like a dedicated  
> sequencer and then just import it into detonate?
>
> Its not quite clear what your musical aim is. Sometimes the  
> solution is just on a different track...
>
> Stefan
>
> -- 
> Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
> --_____-----------|--------------
> --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()-------
> -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
> ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
>


Quote: Stefan Tiedje wrote on Wed, 14 February 2007 02:39

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> Did you think about not using detonate at all (You could use a coll construction for example)?

Can someone explain how a coll could be used in this case? I'd really love to avoid using delta time (i.e. detonate) if I could. It would be nice to store all my events in a coll, based on start time, then fire them off based on some sort of timer.

Quote: Stefan Tiedje wrote on Wed, 14 February 2007 02:39
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Can someone explain how a coll could be used in this case? I'd really love to avoid using delta time (i.e. detonate) if I could. It would be nice to store all my events in a coll, based on start time, then fire them off based on some sort of timer.


Quote: Anthony Prechtl wrote on Sat, 03 January 2009 10:10

> > Did you think about not using detonate at all (You could use a coll construction for example)?

> Can someone explain how a coll could be used in this case? I'd really love to avoid using delta time (i.e. detonate) if I could. It would be nice to store all my events in a coll, based on start time, then fire them off based on some sort of timer.

If you are using Max 5, I recently released some objects for doing this. Explained a bit here: 

http://compusition.com/web/news/2009/01/01

(Or just jump to the download link at the bottom and check out the ajm.metro help file.)

Since most of the relevant objects are abstractions, you can open them up and see how they work and adapt them to your needs.

If you aren't using Max 5, you can accomplish a similar thing without the transport. Hook up a [metro] to a [counter] to serve as your beat count, and then you can use that count as the index for events in a [coll].

Quote: Anthony Prechtl wrote on Sat, 03 January 2009 10:10
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> > Did you think about not using detonate at all (You could use a coll construction for example)?
>
> Can someone explain how a coll could be used in this case? I'd really love to avoid using delta time (i.e. detonate) if I could. It would be nice to store all my events in a coll, based on start time, then fire them off based on some sort of timer.
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If you are using Max 5, I recently released some objects for doing this. Explained a bit here: http://compusition.com/web/news/2009/01/01

If you aren't using Max 5, you can accomplish a similar thing without the transport. Hook up a [metro] to a [counter] to serve as your beat count, and then you can use that count as the index for events in a [coll].


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