Cycling 74 » Topic: easy and effective ways of creating random/generative melodies http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/feed Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:03:14 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.2.4 http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-39870 <![CDATA[easy and effective ways of creating random/generative melodies]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-39870 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 19:42:49 +0000 flowdesigner Hey

what are the easy and effective ways of creating random/generative melodies?

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140604 <![CDATA[Re: easy and effective ways of creating random/generative melodies]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140604 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 22:01:48 +0000 broc It really depends what you consider as a ‘melody’.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melody

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140605 <![CDATA[Re: easy and effective ways of creating random/generative melodies]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140605 Mon, 09 Jul 2012 10:27:46 +0000 flowdesigner Something like this melody

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpbgwjNaDIw

this is only a minor key tonic-subdominant-dominat progression but I want something similar with nice options to go out of 4-4 and out of key, but keep the flow

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140606 <![CDATA[Re: easy and effective ways of creating random/generative melodies]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140606 Mon, 09 Jul 2012 10:47:24 +0000 AudioLemon If you have M4L there are a good few examples of probability and randomly generated pitch, velocity and gate devices. There is also NWDLBOTS and if you only Max maybe look at the RTC Library.

Given the melody you provide:

Generate a row of numbers in the midi range you want the melody (between 0-127), save them as a list, output the numbers in the list sequentially, then rhythmically, ever bar, change the base number to change the key, send them to a scaler and then convert them to midi or frequency. The reason to save the numbers as a list is because the melody repeats. If you want a whole new melody generate another row of numbers. If you want a variation of the same melody look into Markov chains to mutate based on rules.

A good blog is the algorithmic composer.

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140607 <![CDATA[Re: easy and effective ways of creating random/generative melodies]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140607 Tue, 10 Jul 2012 04:05:05 +0000 seejayjames Here’s a commercial Max app I created (for a client) that generates random, but parameter-controlled, melodies for ear-training. Free full time-limited demo available. Windows only.

http://www.reelear.com/index.html

For your own tinkering, [zl] with your melodies is a good start, lots of things you can do with an otherwise straight-ahead list of pitches and rhythms.

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140608 <![CDATA[Re: easy and effective ways of creating random/generative melodies]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140608 Tue, 10 Jul 2012 08:40:06 +0000 Mark Durham Also some great stuff here

http://algocomp.blogspot.co.uk/

I spent quite a long time with a system which used a step sequencer and and an LFOs to trigger notes through VJ Manzo’s modal triad object, this worked pretty well.

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140609 <![CDATA[Re: easy and effective ways of creating random/generative melodies]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140609 Tue, 10 Jul 2012 09:44:40 +0000 Roman Thilenius i think if “effective”, “random” and “keeping the flow” is the whole concept, the concept should be extended a bit _before trying to patch that.

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140610 <![CDATA[Re: easy and effective ways of creating random/generative melodies]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140610 Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:07:59 +0000 flowdesigner “The reason to save the numbers as a list is because the melody repeats.”

Is there a non signal chucker like object?

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140611 <![CDATA[Re: easy and effective ways of creating random/generative melodies]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140611 Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:45:14 +0000 Christopher Dobrian These are hardly “high art” :), but might be instructive…

Controlling the range of a set of numbers
Algorithmic composition with math functions
A 16-stage note sequencer
Read MIDI pitches from a lookup table
Repeated notes at 6 related tempi, with different probabilities
Minimal loops, using a portion of a table (scroll to “Example 3″)

]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140612 <![CDATA[Re: easy and effective ways of creating random/generative melodies]]> http://cycling74.com/forums/topic/easy-and-effective-ways-of-creating-randomgenerative-melodies/#post-140612 Wed, 11 Jul 2012 01:46:44 +0000 AudioLemon Yep. Chucker basically rearranges which slice of audio is played. Instead of playing the loop straight – slice 12345678 you get slice 34251768. Zl.scramble will do the same thing for lists. Like Seejayjames said if you want to mess with lists the the zl family of objects and vexpr are your friends.

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