Embedd a Max patch into a DSP chip

May 24, 2007 at 4:57am

Embedd a Max patch into a DSP chip

Hello,
sorry if this question sounds a bit vague but I really know little about the subject.

so i have a max/msp patch, but i don’t necesserely always want to carry a computer with me to run a relatively simple app.

can i ‘burn’ the max patch into a dsp (and create a stand alone physical object from there) that will allow me to run the application?

many thanks

vale

#32067
May 24, 2007 at 8:01am

is it an msp patch ?
there are ways to port PureData patches Ipods or PDAs .
http://www.ipodlinux.org/PdPod

http://gige.xdv.org/pda/

probably not what you are looking for but could be a starting point for some ideas.
best

Quote: vale wrote on Thu, 24 May 2007 06:57
—————————————————-
> Hello,
> sorry if this question sounds a bit vague but I really know little about the subject.
>
> so i have a max/msp patch, but i don’t necesserely always want to carry a computer with me to run a relatively simple app.
>
> can i ‘burn’ the max patch into a dsp (and create a stand alone physical object from there) that will allow me to run the application?
>
> many thanks
>
> vale
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#104891
May 24, 2007 at 4:54pm

valevari schrieb:
> can i ‘burn’ the max patch into a dsp (and create a stand alone
> physical object from there) that will allow me to run the
> application?

Max relies on 1 of two operating systems…
I guess a mac mini will be cheaper as any dsp…
Elsewise you would need to transfer your patch to Pd, find an embedded
Linux, compile Pd for that embeded Linux and off you go. The amount of
knowledge which would be necessary is enorm, thus the Linux based
Plugzilla and Receptor are way more expensive than a Mac mini.

You probably could get one of those (very big) boxes, and turn your
patch into a pluggo… I heard rumours, that pluggos run, but I know of
nowbody who would spend that amount of money to run pluggos in a box 8
times as big and 3 times as expensive as a mac mini… (And the mini is
so much more convenient, as you can change your patch if necessary on
the fly…)

Laptops aren’t bad either…

Stefan


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#104892
May 24, 2007 at 11:23pm

if you want to run apps without a computer you should
invent a method yourself and get rich.

#104893
May 25, 2007 at 3:31am

You will definitely have to rewrite it in pd, and you might want to
take a look at Sukandar Kartadinata’s glui project:

http://www.glui.de/

M

On May 24, 2007, at 12:54, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

> valevari schrieb:
>> can i ‘burn’ the max patch into a dsp (and create a stand alone
>> physical object from there) that will allow me to run the
>> application?
>
> Max relies on 1 of two operating systems…
> I guess a mac mini will be cheaper as any dsp…
> Elsewise you would need to transfer your patch to Pd, find an
> embedded Linux, compile Pd for that embeded Linux and off you go.
> The amount of knowledge which would be necessary is enorm, thus the
> Linux based Plugzilla and Receptor are way more expensive than a
> Mac mini.
>
> You probably could get one of those (very big) boxes, and turn your
> patch into a pluggo… I heard rumours, that pluggos run, but I
> know of nowbody who would spend that amount of money to run pluggos
> in a box 8 times as big and 3 times as expensive as a mac mini…
> (And the mini is so much more convenient, as you can change your
> patch if necessary on the fly…)
>
> Laptops aren’t bad either…
>
> Stefan
>
> —
> Stefan Tiedje————x——-
> –_____———–|————–
> –(_|_ —-|—–|—–()——-
> — _|_)—-|—–()————–
> ———-()——–www.ccmix.com
>

#104894
May 27, 2007 at 4:38pm

#104895
May 27, 2007 at 5:28pm

eventually the iPhone is what he is looking for, and
this time i am not joking.

#104896
May 28, 2007 at 1:35am

Hi Matty, thanks for the plug. Incidentally, I’ve just updated the
website with the history and the current state of the gluiph project:
glui.de?jump=gluiph

In general I have to agree with Stefan, that the Mac mini, or Mini-
ITX based PC systems, are small enough for most applications.
Sometimes it’s gotta be smaller though and then it can be worth the
effort to port to SBCs. It sure is more expensive….

cheers,
S

On 25.05.2007, at 05:31, mattyo wrote:

> You will definitely have to rewrite it in pd, and you might want to
> take a look at Sukandar Kartadinata’s glui project:
>
> http://www.glui.de/
>
> M
>
>
>
> On May 24, 2007, at 12:54, Stefan Tiedje wrote:
>
>> valevari schrieb:
>>> can i ‘burn’ the max patch into a dsp (and create a stand alone
>>> physical object from there) that will allow me to run the
>>> application?
>>
>> Max relies on 1 of two operating systems…
>> I guess a mac mini will be cheaper as any dsp…
>> Elsewise you would need to transfer your patch to Pd, find an
>> embedded Linux, compile Pd for that embeded Linux and off you go.
>> The amount of knowledge which would be necessary is enorm, thus
>> the Linux based Plugzilla and Receptor are way more expensive than
>> a Mac mini.
>>
>> You probably could get one of those (very big) boxes, and turn
>> your patch into a pluggo… I heard rumours, that pluggos run, but
>> I know of nowbody who would spend that amount of money to run
>> pluggos in a box 8 times as big and 3 times as expensive as a mac
>> mini… (And the mini is so much more convenient, as you can
>> change your patch if necessary on the fly…)
>>
>> Laptops aren’t bad either…
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>> —
>> Stefan Tiedje————x——-
>> –_____———–|————–
>> –(_|_ —-|—–|—–()——-
>> — _|_)—-|—–()————–
>> ———-()——–www.ccmix.com
>>
>

#104897
May 28, 2007 at 1:45am

#104898
May 28, 2007 at 7:39pm

Roman Thilenius wrote:
>
> eventually the iPhone is what he is looking for, and
> this time i am not joking.

Or maybe this one:

http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=12&l2=44&l3=0&model=460&modelmenu=1

I’m running Pd here on one of these and it really works! Without GUI of
course and currently without audio I/O. But the ‘Kamikaze’ version of
OpenWrt is said to support USB soundcards using OSS and ALSA which would
allow for audio I/O. Only drawback is that with 200MHz the CPU is not
the fastest one could dream of….

Olaf

#104899
May 28, 2007 at 8:46pm

#104900
May 29, 2007 at 12:24pm

Installing Max on Apple TV would also be interesting…

#104901

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