vale

sorry if this question sounds a bit vague but I really know little about the subject.

so i have a max/msp patch, but i don't necesserely always want to carry a computer with me to run a relatively simple app.

can i 'burn' the max patch into a dsp (and create a stand alone physical object from there) that will allow me to run the application?

Hello,
sorry if this question sounds a bit vague but I really know little about the subject.

embedd-a-max-patch-into-a-dsp-chip

there are ways to port PureData patches Ipods or PDAs .

probably not what you are looking for but could be a starting point for some ideas.

Quote: vale wrote on Thu, 24 May 2007 06:57

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> sorry if this question sounds a bit vague but I really know little about the subject.

> so i have a max/msp patch, but i don't necesserely always want to carry a computer with me to run a relatively simple app.

> can i 'burn' the max patch into a dsp (and create a stand alone physical object from there) that will allow me to run the application?

is it an msp patch ?
there are  ways to port PureData patches Ipods or PDAs .
http://www.ipodlinux.org/PdPod
http://gige.xdv.org/pda/

probably not what you are looking for but could be a starting point for some ideas.
best

Quote: vale wrote on Thu, 24 May 2007 06:57
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> Hello,
> sorry if this question sounds a bit vague but I really know little about the subject.
>
> so i have a max/msp patch, but i don't necesserely always want to carry a computer with me to run a relatively simple app.
>
> can i 'burn' the max patch into a dsp (and create a stand alone physical object from there) that will allow me to run the application?
>
> many thanks
>
> vale
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> can i 'burn' the max patch into a dsp (and create a stand alone

> physical object from there) that will allow me to run the

Max relies on 1 of two operating systems...

I guess a mac mini will be cheaper as any dsp...

Elsewise you would need to transfer your patch to Pd, find an embedded 

Linux, compile Pd for that embeded Linux and off you go. The amount of 

knowledge which would be necessary is enorm, thus the Linux based 

Plugzilla and Receptor are way more expensive than a Mac mini.

You probably could get one of those (very big) boxes, and turn your 

patch into a pluggo... I heard rumours, that pluggos run, but I know of 

nowbody who would spend that amount of money to run pluggos in a box 8 

times as big and 3 times as expensive as a mac mini... (And the mini is 

so much more convenient, as you can change your patch if necessary on 

valevari schrieb:
> can i 'burn' the max patch into a dsp (and create a stand alone
> physical object from there) that will allow me to run the
> application?

Max relies on 1 of two operating systems...
I guess a mac mini will be cheaper as any dsp...
Elsewise you would need to transfer your patch to Pd, find an embedded 
Linux, compile Pd for that embeded Linux and off you go. The amount of 
knowledge which would be necessary is enorm, thus the Linux based 
Plugzilla and Receptor are way more expensive than a Mac mini.

You probably could get one of those (very big) boxes, and turn your 
patch into a pluggo... I heard rumours, that pluggos run, but I know of 
nowbody who would spend that amount of money to run pluggos in a box 8 
times as big and 3 times as expensive as a mac mini... (And the mini is 
so much more convenient, as you can change your patch if necessary on 
the fly...)

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if you want to run apps without a computer you should

if you want to run apps without a computer you should
invent a method yourself and get rich.


You will definitely have to rewrite it in pd, and you might want to 

take a look at Sukandar Kartadinata's glui project:

On May 24, 2007, at 12:54, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

>> can i 'burn' the max patch into a dsp (and create a stand alone

>> physical object from there) that will allow me to run the

> Max relies on 1 of two operating systems...

> I guess a mac mini will be cheaper as any dsp...

> Elsewise you would need to transfer your patch to Pd, find an 

> embedded Linux, compile Pd for that embeded Linux and off you go. 

> The amount of knowledge which would be necessary is enorm, thus the 

> Linux based Plugzilla and Receptor are way more expensive than a 

> You probably could get one of those (very big) boxes, and turn your 

> patch into a pluggo... I heard rumours, that pluggos run, but I 

> know of nowbody who would spend that amount of money to run pluggos 

> in a box 8 times as big and 3 times as expensive as a mac mini... 

> (And the mini is so much more convenient, as you can change your 

You will definitely have to rewrite it in pd, and you might want to  
take a look at Sukandar Kartadinata's glui project:

> valevari schrieb:
>> can i 'burn' the max patch into a dsp (and create a stand alone
>> physical object from there) that will allow me to run the
>> application?
>
> Max relies on 1 of two operating systems...
> I guess a mac mini will be cheaper as any dsp...
> Elsewise you would need to transfer your patch to Pd, find an  
> embedded Linux, compile Pd for that embeded Linux and off you go.  
> The amount of knowledge which would be necessary is enorm, thus the  
> Linux based Plugzilla and Receptor are way more expensive than a  
> Mac mini.
>
> You probably could get one of those (very big) boxes, and turn your  
> patch into a pluggo... I heard rumours, that pluggos run, but I  
> know of nowbody who would spend that amount of money to run pluggos  
> in a box 8 times as big and 3 times as expensive as a mac mini...  
> (And the mini is so much more convenient, as you can change your  
> patch if necessary on the fly...)
>
> Laptops aren't bad either...
>
> Stefan
>
> -- 
> Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
> --_____-----------|--------------
> --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()-------
> -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
> ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
>


eventually the iPhone is what he is looking for, and

eventually the iPhone is what he is looking for, and
this time i am not joking.


Hi Matty, thanks for the plug. Incidentally, I've just updated the 

website with the history and the current state of the gluiph project: 

In general I have to agree with Stefan, that the Mac mini, or Mini- 

ITX based PC systems, are small enough for most applications. 

Sometimes it's gotta be smaller though and then it can be worth the 

effort to port to SBCs. It sure is more expensive....

> You will definitely have to rewrite it in pd, and you might want to 

> take a look at Sukandar Kartadinata's glui project:

> On May 24, 2007, at 12:54, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

>>> can i 'burn' the max patch into a dsp (and create a stand alone

>>> physical object from there) that will allow me to run the

>> Max relies on 1 of two operating systems...

>> I guess a mac mini will be cheaper as any dsp...

>> Elsewise you would need to transfer your patch to Pd, find an 

>> embedded Linux, compile Pd for that embeded Linux and off you go. 

>> The amount of knowledge which would be necessary is enorm, thus 

>> the Linux based Plugzilla and Receptor are way more expensive than 

>> You probably could get one of those (very big) boxes, and turn 

>> your patch into a pluggo... I heard rumours, that pluggos run, but 

>> I know of nowbody who would spend that amount of money to run 

>> pluggos in a box 8 times as big and 3 times as expensive as a mac 

>> mini... (And the mini is so much more convenient, as you can 

>> change your patch if necessary on the fly...)

Hi Matty, thanks for the plug. Incidentally, I've just updated the  
website with the history and the current state of the gluiph project:  
glui.de?jump=gluiph

In general I have to agree with Stefan, that the Mac mini, or Mini- 
ITX based PC systems, are small enough for most applications.  
Sometimes it's gotta be smaller though and then it can be worth the  
effort to port to SBCs. It sure is more expensive....

> You will definitely have to rewrite it in pd, and you might want to  
> take a look at Sukandar Kartadinata's glui project:
>
> www.glui.de/
>
> M
>
>
>
> On May 24, 2007, at 12:54, Stefan Tiedje wrote:
>
>> valevari schrieb:
>>> can i 'burn' the max patch into a dsp (and create a stand alone
>>> physical object from there) that will allow me to run the
>>> application?
>>
>> Max relies on 1 of two operating systems...
>> I guess a mac mini will be cheaper as any dsp...
>> Elsewise you would need to transfer your patch to Pd, find an  
>> embedded Linux, compile Pd for that embeded Linux and off you go.  
>> The amount of knowledge which would be necessary is enorm, thus  
>> the Linux based Plugzilla and Receptor are way more expensive than  
>> a Mac mini.
>>
>> You probably could get one of those (very big) boxes, and turn  
>> your patch into a pluggo... I heard rumours, that pluggos run, but  
>> I know of nowbody who would spend that amount of money to run  
>> pluggos in a box 8 times as big and 3 times as expensive as a mac  
>> mini... (And the mini is so much more convenient, as you can  
>> change your patch if necessary on the fly...)
>>
>> Laptops aren't bad either...
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>> -- 
>> Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
>> --_____-----------|--------------
>> --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()-------
>> -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
>> ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
>>
>


> eventually the iPhone is what he is looking for, and

http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=12&l2=44&l3=0&model=460&modelmenu=1

I'm running Pd here on one of these and it really works! Without GUI of 

course and currently without audio I/O. But the 'Kamikaze' version of 

OpenWrt is said to support USB soundcards using OSS and ALSA which would 

allow for audio I/O. Only drawback is that with 200MHz the CPU is not 

Roman Thilenius wrote:
>
> eventually the iPhone is what he is looking for, and
> this time i am not joking.

I'm running Pd here on one of these and it really works! Without GUI of 
course and currently without audio I/O. But the 'Kamikaze' version of 
OpenWrt is said to support USB soundcards using OSS and ALSA which would 
allow for audio I/O. Only drawback is that with 200MHz the CPU is not 
the fastest one could dream of....

Installing Max on Apple TV would also be interesting...

Embedd a Max patch into a DSP chip