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					<title><![CDATA[Envelope and volume control problem]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>alkopop79</dc:creator>

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						<p>Howdy! I have a simple yet annoying problem: I&#8217;m trying to control the amp of a synth with envelope, velocity values and a volume dial. However, when all the controls are connected to *~ object, they won&#8217;t work together. For instance, changing the volume would  yield a continuos sound which obviously I don&#8217;t want. Here&#8217;s an example:</p>
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<p>I want to be able to control the volume and use the envelope at the same time. Any ideas would be appreciated!</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Envelope and volume control problem]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>spectro</dc:creator>

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						<p>Id suggest using a seperate, [*~ ]  to control volume *after* the envelope [*~]. In other words, any gain modifications, ie envelope, and final volume, should have their own &#8216;gain stage&#8217; unless they are intentionally interactive.</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Envelope and volume control problem]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>alkopop79</dc:creator>

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						<p>Brilliant1 Thanks!</p>
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					<title><![CDATA[Re: Envelope and volume control problem]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Peter McCulloch</dc:creator>

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						<p>Just to clarify further, because this is something that isn&#8217;t always immediately obvious: when you send multiple signal patch cords (this is true only for signal patch cords!) into the same inlet they are added together.  </p>
<p>If you want A*B*C*D you need to use multiple *~ objects (on for each *!).  </p>
<p>Sending A into the left inlet of *~ and B,C,D into the right inlet of that *~ object will give you A*(B+C+D).</p>
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