I'm cleaning my max folders and wonder : efficiency (loading) will be 

the same if i move my third party externals from the c74 folder to 

f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music

> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|

I'm cleaning my max folders and wonder : efficiency (loading) will be 
the same if i move my third party externals from the c74 folder to 
another one ?

-- 
f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
> >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|


external-folders

As I've requested before, I would desperately like to see proof of 

this silly assertion. The MaxMSP Installer has never eaten my 3rd 

party objects (or any other data, for that matter), and I'm willing 

to bet the weight of those books in beer that I run those installers 

As I've requested before, I would desperately like to see proof of  
this silly assertion. The MaxMSP Installer has never eaten my 3rd  
party objects (or any other data, for that matter), and I'm willing  
to bet the weight of those books in beer that I run those installers  
a lot more often than you do.

I made a foler in my externals folder, and called it "3rd_party" - i 

keep all 3rd party (!!!) externals there. I do it on all my macs, 

as for windows i just sold my win machine, so i don't know

I made a foler in my externals folder, and called it "3rd_party" - i 
keep all 3rd party (!!!) externals there. I do it on all my macs, 
never had a problem.

kasper
-- 
  Kasper T. Toeplitz
noise, composition, bass, computer
http://www.sleazeArt.com

Thanks, Peter, i've done that. I wanted to do it since a loooooong time 

but was a little affraid of changing my habits. The worse was to decide 

how to organize things : libraries, patches, externals, help files... 

I've decided to keep every help files close to its external or 

abstraction, then made an external folder for non-lib & non-abstractions 

files (bonk, fiddle, netsend~, even hr.externs which, after 10" i've 

decided not to consider as a library), a lib folder for lib (yes), and a 

patches folder for everything else (from max list txt files to MMNS2004, 

and so on...). + a Dev folder & a Java one. JS ? not sure... Now it's so 

A question i have in my mind since i'm maxing : could we manually add 

other search paths in the txt file if the allowed ones are full ?

Thanks, Peter, i've done that. I wanted to do it since a loooooong time 
but was a little affraid of changing my habits. The worse was to decide 
how to organize things : libraries, patches, externals, help files... 
I've decided to keep every help files close to its external or 
abstraction, then made an external folder for non-lib & non-abstractions 
files (bonk, fiddle, netsend~, even hr.externs which, after 10"  i've 
decided not to consider as a library), a lib folder for lib (yes), and a 
patches folder for everything else (from max list txt files to MMNS2004, 
and so on...). + a Dev folder & a Java one. JS ? not sure... Now it's so 
clean :-)

A question i have in my mind since i'm maxing : could we manually add 
other search paths in the txt file if the allowed ones are full ?

f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music


I really have had messages from Litter Power users who lost objects 

in an Max/MSP update. Grepping through old mail, this seems not to 

have been an issue since 4.5.1, but between 4.2 and 4.5.0 it did 

I won't provide "proof" in the form of names, copied email, or the 

like. Personal mail is personal mail. But I modified the Litter 

install instructions from "copy to your externals folder" to "put an 

alias into your externals folder" precisely because of unfortunate 

experiences. FWIW, that mod was made Jan 2004.

If current installers don't clear out the externals and patches 

folders, that's as it should be. Whether future installers will 

exhibit the same behavior is something in the hands of the gods (ie, 

whomever provides the Installer software and whomever sets the 

Install preferences at Cycling '74). I can't control that. I *can* 

Any comments on f.e's efficiency concerns?

"Never trust anything that can think for itself if you can't see 

I really have had messages from Litter Power users who lost objects  
in an Max/MSP update. Grepping through old mail, this seems not to  
have been an issue since 4.5.1, but between 4.2 and 4.5.0 it did  
happen. Happened to me once, too.

I won't provide "proof" in the form of names, copied email, or the  
like. Personal mail is personal mail. But I modified the Litter  
install instructions from "copy to your externals folder" to "put an  
alias into your externals folder" precisely because of unfortunate  
experiences. FWIW, that mod was made Jan 2004.

If current installers don't clear out the externals and patches  
folders, that's as it should be. Whether future installers will  
exhibit the same behavior is something in the hands of the gods (ie,  
whomever provides the Installer software and whomever sets the  
Install preferences at Cycling '74). I can't control that. I *can*  
control where I put my externals.

"Never trust anything that can think for itself if you can't see  
where it keeps its brain..."


> The worse was to decide how to organize things : libraries, 

There are lots of ways to do this, I don't think there is any one 

> I've decided to keep every help files close to its external or 

Makes sense. I recently "discovered" that Max traverses the entire 

search path when looking for .help files. For some reason I thought 

it only looked in max-help, but I guess I guessed wrong. I tried this 

on Mac OS, presumably it also works on Windows. So you should be able 

to organize .help files however you want.

> A question i have in my mind since i'm maxing : could we manually 

> add other search paths in the txt file if the allowed ones are full ?

Should work. '; max paths' and filepath can handle more "slots" than 

the File Prefs window. Check out the Messages to Max chapter. 

Peter Castine +--> Litter Power & Litter Bundle for Jitter

iCE: Sequencing, Recording & |home | chez nous|

Interface Building for |bei uns | i nostri|

On 28-Jun-2006, at 15:28, f.e wrote:
> The worse was to decide how to organize things : libraries,  
> patches, externals, help files...

There are lots of ways to do this, I don't think there is any one  
"best" solution. Whatever works for you.

> I've decided to keep every help files close to its external or  
> abstraction,

Makes sense. I recently "discovered" that Max traverses the entire  
search path when looking for .help files. For some reason I thought  
it only looked in max-help, but I guess I guessed wrong. I tried this  
on Mac OS, presumably it also works on Windows. So you should be able  
to organize .help files however you want.

> A question i have in my mind since i'm maxing : could we manually  
> add other search paths in the txt file if the allowed ones are full ?

Should work. '; max paths' and filepath can handle more "slots" than  
the File Prefs window. Check out the Messages to Max chapter.  
Filepath.help says up to 256 slots.

--------------    http://www.bek.no/~pcastine/Litter/    -------------
Peter Castine             +--> Litter Power & Litter Bundle for Jitter

this has been an important issue to me in the past. it could use 

some documentation because people seem to have varying outlooks on 

it. so it could use some official documentation. something that 

says "if you listen to every readme, your cycling folder will end up 

looking like your parents hard drive" er... I mean... it'll get messy

this has been an important issue to me in the past.  it could use  
some documentation because people seem to have varying outlooks on  
it.  so it could use some official documentation.  something that  
says "if you listen to every readme, your cycling folder will end up  
looking like your parents hard drive"   er...  I mean... it'll get messy

i put all my custom folders in the max app folder (it 

could be any other folder of cour choice) and then select 

i put all my custom folders in the max app folder (it 
could be any other folder of cour choice) and then select 
only the main folder to the search path.


I keep all my 3rd party externals in E:maxmsp__externals , including betas from the incremental update wiki :D having 2 versions of uzi, one in the c74 folder and one in the search path, the search path one takes the cake which is cool.. meaning I don't have to replace objects. I can just leave things be.

external & folders