Miguel Mesa

Hi! I'm on a project and I need to make a patch that shows a kind of rain of letters, falling. Not as fast as "the Matrix" film.

I've been working with jit.gl.text2d but my concern is the speed... it seems to be a slow procedure. And the falling efect I programmed isn't working.

My idea is to have a 3 plane matrix, the first plane is for the letter, second and third for X,Y coordinates. In order to achieve the falling efect I used a jit.expr object but it doesn't seem to work.

falling-text-symbols-need-help

How about this? This probably isn't the best way to do it, but it's a quick fix.

Thanks Zachary and Matthieu. I was stuck and your suggestions were really helpful!

looks like you've got some nice suggestions.

however, if you need some more inspiration, i would also suggest taking a look at the jitter particle generators and creating a particle system to generate position values for your letters.

looks like you've got some nice suggestions.
however, if you need some more inspiration, i would also suggest taking a look at the jitter particle generators and creating a particle system to generate position values for your letters.

you had a small but nasty bug in your jit.expr: instead of accesing 

separate planes of matrix incoming through inlet 0(in[0].p[0]), you 

were using whole matrices incoming into inlets 0 1 2(in[0]).

Another catch is to use float values for char matrices too, meaning 

that char values are 0-1. instead of 0-255.

You can also add modulo operator to jit.expr, so that the y 

coordinate remains in given range(% 1. means that when the values 

you had a small but nasty bug in your jit.expr: instead of accesing  
separate planes of matrix incoming through inlet 0(in[0].p[0]), you  
were using whole matrices incoming into inlets 0 1 2(in[0]).

Another catch is to use float values for char matrices too, meaning  
that char values are 0-1. instead of 0-255.

You can also add modulo operator to jit.expr, so that the y  
coordinate remains in given range(% 1. means that when the values  
passes 1. it snaps back to 0.)

in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals

in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals
will these be available for 1.6 soon
anyone else using these?

Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
Sound and Light Technologist
School of Theatre and Dance
University of Florida 
Gainesville, FL USA

> in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals

On 8/14/07, Pagano, Patrick  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>  in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals
>  will these be available for 1.6 soon
>  anyone else using these?
>
>
>
>
>  Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
>  Sound and Light Technologist
>  School of Theatre and Dance
>  University of Florida
>  Gainesville, FL USA
>
>
>
>
>


On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

> Hi
>
>
> in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals
> will these be available for 1.6 soon
> anyone else using these?
>
>
>
>
> Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> Sound and Light Technologist
> School of Theatre and Dance
> University of Florida
> Gainesville, FL USA
>
>
>


I enjoyed them quite a bit and would like to use them for certain shows. I assume there are issues with updating software from ppc to intel 1.5-->1.6, but i have waited almost a year.

how do/did others update their externals so rapidly

From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of joshua goldberg

Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6

how do/did others update their externals so rapidly 

-----Original Message-----
From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of joshua goldberg
Sent: Tue 8/14/2007 8:07 PM
Cc: Kurt Ralske
Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6

> Hi
>
>
> in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals
> will these be available for 1.6 soon
> anyone else using these?
>
>
>
>
> Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> Sound and Light Technologist
> School of Theatre and Dance
> University of Florida
> Gainesville, FL USA
>
>
>

some people have more spare time than others. seriously, when you're 

a one-man shop and trying to make a living, doing software 

development can be a time-consuming and unprofitable enterprise. and 

we'd probably complain if we had to pay for the upgrade.... ;-) fwiw, 

i would love to have a UB version of AUVI, but i don't think it's 

On Aug 15, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

> I enjoyed them quite a bit and would like to use them for certain 

> shows. I assume there are issues with updating software from ppc to 

> intel 1.5-->1.6, but i have waited almost a year.

> how do/did others update their externals so rapidly

> From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of joshua goldberg

> Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6

> On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

> > in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals

"To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."

some people have more spare time than others. seriously, when you're  
a one-man shop and trying to make a living, doing software  
development can be a time-consuming and unprofitable enterprise. and  
we'd probably complain if we had to pay for the upgrade.... ;-) fwiw,  
i would love to have a UB version of AUVI, but i don't think it's  
going to happen any time soon.
cheers
bruce

> I enjoyed them quite a bit and would like to use them for certain  
> shows. I assume there are issues with updating software from ppc to  
> intel 1.5-->1.6, but i have waited almost a year.
>
> how do/did others update their externals so rapidly
>
>
> Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> Sound and Light Technologist
> School of Theatre and Dance
> University of Florida
> Gainesville, FL USA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of joshua goldberg
> Sent: Tue 8/14/2007 8:07 PM
> Cc: Kurt Ralske
> Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6
>
> someone get kurt a nice meaty grant.
>
> On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> >
> > in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals
> > will these be available for 1.6 soon
> > anyone else using these?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> > Sound and Light Technologist
> > School of Theatre and Dance
> > University of Florida
> > Gainesville, FL USA
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

"To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
Albert Einstein


I guess am going to have to think twice before buying ANY externals from now on.

I do not care for cyber-plookings even if the guy is an awesome fella.

From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of bruce tovsky

I do not care for cyber-plookings even if the guy is an awesome fella. 

-----Original Message-----
From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of bruce tovsky
Sent: Wed 8/15/2007 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6

"To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
Albert Einstein

fwiw, kurt is an awesome fella, with a (fairly) new baby and a 

(fairly) new teaching job, so most of us have been cutting him some 

On Aug 15, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

> I guess am going to have to think twice before buying ANY externals 

> I do not care for cyber-plookings even if the guy is an awesome fella.

> From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of bruce tovsky

> some people have more spare time than others. seriously, when you're

> a one-man shop and trying to make a living, doing software

> development can be a time-consuming and unprofitable enterprise. and

> we'd probably complain if we had to pay for the upgrade.... ;-) fwiw,

> i would love to have a UB version of AUVI, but i don't think it's

> On Aug 15, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

> > I enjoyed them quite a bit and would like to use them for certain

> > shows. I assume there are issues with updating software from ppc to

> > intel 1.5-->1.6, but i have waited almost a year.

> > how do/did others update their externals so rapidly

cyber-plookings???
fwiw, kurt is an awesome fella, with a (fairly) new baby and a  
(fairly) new teaching job, so most of us have been cutting him some  
slack. your experience may vary.
cheers
b

> hi
>
> I guess am going to have to think twice before buying ANY externals  
> from now on.
>
> I do not care for cyber-plookings even if the guy is an awesome fella.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> Sound and Light Technologist
> School of Theatre and Dance
> University of Florida
> Gainesville, FL USA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of bruce tovsky
> Sent: Wed 8/15/2007 2:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6
>
> some people have more spare time than others. seriously, when you're
> a one-man shop and trying to make a living, doing software
> development can be a time-consuming and unprofitable enterprise. and
> we'd probably complain if we had to pay for the upgrade.... ;-) fwiw,
> i would love to have a UB version of AUVI, but i don't think it's
> going to happen any time soon.
> cheers
> bruce
>
> On Aug 15, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>
> > I enjoyed them quite a bit and would like to use them for certain
> > shows. I assume there are issues with updating software from ppc to
> > intel 1.5-->1.6, but i have waited almost a year.
> >
> > how do/did others update their externals so rapidly
> >
> >
> > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> > Sound and Light Technologist
> > School of Theatre and Dance
> > University of Florida
> > Gainesville, FL USA
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of joshua goldberg
> > Sent: Tue 8/14/2007 8:07 PM
> > Cc: Kurt Ralske
> > Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6
> >
> > someone get kurt a nice meaty grant.
> >
> > On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > >
> > > in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals
> > > will these be available for 1.6 soon
> > > anyone else using these?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> > > Sound and Light Technologist
> > > School of Theatre and Dance
> > > University of Florida
> > > Gainesville, FL USA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> bruce tovsky
> www.skeletonhome.com
>
> "To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
> Albert Einstein
>
>
>

I don't know him personally,but there should at least be a note on the webpage. My intention was not to embarrass Kurt, but to simply find out if the money i spent was going to be honored with an update.

total agreement - there certainly should be a note on the website.

On Aug 15, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

> I don't know him personally,but there should at least be a note on 

> the webpage. My intention was not to embarrass Kurt, but to simply 

> find out if the money i spent was going to be honored with an update.

> fwiw, kurt is an awesome fella, with a (fairly) new baby and a

> (fairly) new teaching job, so most of us have been cutting him some

> On Aug 15, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

> > I guess am going to have to think twice before buying ANY externals

> > I do not care for cyber-plookings even if the guy is an awesome 

> > From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of bruce tovsky

> > Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6

> > some people have more spare time than others. seriously, when you're

total agreement - there certainly should be a note on the website.
b

> I don't know him personally,but there should at least be a note on  
> the webpage. My intention was not to embarrass Kurt, but to simply  
> find out if the money i spent was going to be honored with an update.
>
> thanks for the replies.
>
>
> Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> Sound and Light Technologist
> School of Theatre and Dance
> University of Florida
> Gainesville, FL USA
>
>
> cyber-plookings???
> fwiw, kurt is an awesome fella, with a (fairly) new baby and a
> (fairly) new teaching job, so most of us have been cutting him some
> slack. your experience may vary.
> cheers
> b
>
> On Aug 15, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>
> > hi
> >
> > I guess am going to have to think twice before buying ANY externals
> > from now on.
> >
> > I do not care for cyber-plookings even if the guy is an awesome  
> fella.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> > Sound and Light Technologist
> > School of Theatre and Dance
> > University of Florida
> > Gainesville, FL USA
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of bruce tovsky
> > Sent: Wed 8/15/2007 2:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6
> >
> > some people have more spare time than others. seriously, when you're
> > a one-man shop and trying to make a living, doing software
> > development can be a time-consuming and unprofitable enterprise. and
> > we'd probably complain if we had to pay for the upgrade.... ;-)  
> fwiw,
> > i would love to have a UB version of AUVI, but i don't think it's
> > going to happen any time soon.
> > cheers
> > bruce
> >
> > On Aug 15, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
> >
> > > I enjoyed them quite a bit and would like to use them for certain
> > > shows. I assume there are issues with updating software from  
> ppc to
> > > intel 1.5-->1.6, but i have waited almost a year.
> > >
> > > how do/did others update their externals so rapidly
> > >
> > >
> > > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> > > Sound and Light Technologist
> > > School of Theatre and Dance
> > > University of Florida
> > > Gainesville, FL USA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of joshua goldberg
> > > Sent: Tue 8/14/2007 8:07 PM
> > > Cc: Kurt Ralske
> > > Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6
> > >
> > > someone get kurt a nice meaty grant.
> > >
> > > On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals
> > > > will these be available for 1.6 soon
> > > > anyone else using these?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
> > > > Sound and Light Technologist
> > > > School of Theatre and Dance
> > > > University of Florida
> > > > Gainesville, FL USA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > bruce tovsky
> > www.skeletonhome.com
> >
> > "To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
> > Albert Einstein
> >
> >
> >
>
> bruce tovsky
> www.skeletonhome.com
>
> "To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
> Albert Einstein
>
>
>

Ive actually spoken with Kurt a few times recently pleading with him 

to make a 1.6 UB. As Bruce has said, teaching + baby + life gets in 

Ive tried to convince Kurt to create a set of Image Unit plugins - 

this would expand the market for AUVI, (Quartz Composer, Modul8, 

Its a shame, I agree, to lose AUVI on the newer systems, but most of 

the functionality can be rebuilt in shaders, and be much much faster.

On Aug 15, 2007, at 5:21 PM, bruce tovsky wrote:

> total agreement - there certainly should be a note on the website.

> On Aug 15, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

>> I don't know him personally,but there should at least be a note on 

>> the webpage. My intention was not to embarrass Kurt, but to simply 

>> find out if the money i spent was going to be honored with an update.

>> fwiw, kurt is an awesome fella, with a (fairly) new baby and a

>> (fairly) new teaching job, so most of us have been cutting him some

>> On Aug 15, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

>> > I guess am going to have to think twice before buying ANY externals

>> > I do not care for cyber-plookings even if the guy is an awesome 

Ive actually spoken with Kurt a few times recently pleading with him  
to make a 1.6 UB. As Bruce has said, teaching + baby + life gets in  
the way.

Ive tried to convince Kurt to create a set of Image Unit plugins -  
this would expand the market for AUVI, (Quartz Composer, Modul8,  
VDMX, etc), plus GPU accelerate it.

Its a shame, I agree, to lose AUVI on the newer systems, but most of  
the functionality can be rebuilt in shaders, and be much much faster.

> total agreement - there certainly should be a note on the website.
> b
>
> On Aug 15, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>
>> I don't know him personally,but there should at least be a note on  
>> the webpage. My intention was not to embarrass Kurt, but to simply  
>> find out if the money i spent was going to be honored with an update.
>>
>> thanks for the replies.
>>
>>
>> Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
>> Sound and Light Technologist
>> School of Theatre and Dance
>> University of Florida
>> Gainesville, FL USA
>>
>>
>> cyber-plookings???
>> fwiw, kurt is an awesome fella, with a (fairly) new baby and a
>> (fairly) new teaching job, so most of us have been cutting him some
>> slack. your experience may vary.
>> cheers
>> b
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>>
>> > hi
>> >
>> > I guess am going to have to think twice before buying ANY externals
>> > from now on.
>> >
>> > I do not care for cyber-plookings even if the guy is an awesome  
>> fella.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
>> > Sound and Light Technologist
>> > School of Theatre and Dance
>> > University of Florida
>> > Gainesville, FL USA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of bruce tovsky
>> > Sent: Wed 8/15/2007 2:06 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6
>> >
>> > some people have more spare time than others. seriously, when  
>> you're
>> > a one-man shop and trying to make a living, doing software
>> > development can be a time-consuming and unprofitable enterprise.  
>> and
>> > we'd probably complain if we had to pay for the upgrade.... ;-)  
>> fwiw,
>> > i would love to have a UB version of AUVI, but i don't think it's
>> > going to happen any time soon.
>> > cheers
>> > bruce
>> >
>> > On Aug 15, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>> >
>> > > I enjoyed them quite a bit and would like to use them for certain
>> > > shows. I assume there are issues with updating software from  
>> ppc to
>> > > intel 1.5-->1.6, but i have waited almost a year.
>> > >
>> > > how do/did others update their externals so rapidly
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
>> > > Sound and Light Technologist
>> > > School of Theatre and Dance
>> > > University of Florida
>> > > Gainesville, FL USA
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jitter-bounces@cycling74.com on behalf of joshua goldberg
>> > > Sent: Tue 8/14/2007 8:07 PM
>> > > Cc: Kurt Ralske
>> > > Subject: Re: [jitter] AUVI plugins in 1.6
>> > >
>> > > someone get kurt a nice meaty grant.
>> > >
>> > > On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > in Jitter i also sometimes use auvi externals
>> > > > will these be available for 1.6 soon
>> > > > anyone else using these?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A
>> > > > Sound and Light Technologist
>> > > > School of Theatre and Dance
>> > > > University of Florida
>> > > > Gainesville, FL USA
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > bruce tovsky
>> > www.skeletonhome.com
>> >
>> > "To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
>> > Albert Einstein
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> bruce tovsky
>> www.skeletonhome.com
>>
>> "To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
>> Albert Einstein
>>
>>
>>
>
> bruce tovsky
> www.skeletonhome.com
>
> "To know is nothing at all; to imagine is everything."
> Albert Einstein
>

> Its a shame, I agree, to lose AUVI on the newer systems, but most of the

> functionality can be rebuilt in shaders, and be much much faster.

Yeah, and in the whole day since this was posted, one could've been

> Its a shame, I agree, to lose AUVI on the newer systems, but most of the
> functionality can be rebuilt in shaders, and be much much faster.

Yeah, and in the whole day since this was posted, one could've been
working on this.  It is max, after all.

Well, honestly, the reason ive been teaching myself shaders and 

releasing them is to re-create the AUVI stuff ive lost since 

On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:04 PM, keith manlove wrote:

>> Its a shame, I agree, to lose AUVI on the newer systems, but most 

>> functionality can be rebuilt in shaders, and be much much faster.

> Yeah, and in the whole day since this was posted, one could've been

Well, honestly, the reason ive been teaching myself shaders and  
releasing them is to re-create the AUVI stuff ive lost since  
transitioning to 1.6/Intel Mac. :)

>> Its a shame, I agree, to lose AUVI on the newer systems, but most  
>> of the
>> functionality can be rebuilt in shaders, and be much much faster.
>
>
> Yeah, and in the whole day since this was posted, one could've been
> working on this.  It is max, after all.
>
> Keith

well let us know what you come up with...

On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:22 PM, vade wrote:

> Well, honestly, the reason ive been teaching myself shaders and 

> releasing them is to re-create the AUVI stuff ive lost since 

> On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:04 PM, keith manlove wrote:

>>> Its a shame, I agree, to lose AUVI on the newer systems, but most 

>>> functionality can be rebuilt in shaders, and be much much faster.

>> Yeah, and in the whole day since this was posted, one could've been

>> working on this. It is max, after all.

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."

well let us know what you come up with...
cheers
bruce

> Well, honestly, the reason ive been teaching myself shaders and  
> releasing them is to re-create the AUVI stuff ive lost since  
> transitioning to 1.6/Intel Mac. :)
>
> i too am a paying customer ;)
>
>
> On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:04 PM, keith manlove wrote:
>
>>> Its a shame, I agree, to lose AUVI on the newer systems, but most  
>>> of the
>>> functionality can be rebuilt in shaders, and be much much faster.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, and in the whole day since this was posted, one could've been
>> working on this.  It is max, after all.
>>
>> Keith
>
> v a d e //
>
> www.vade.info
> abstrakt.vade.info
>
>
>

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
Albert Einstein


Btw, if you're on PPC, you can use third party CFM jitter externals, 

if you have CFM support enabled, and have installed jitlib 1.5.3 in / 

Library/CFMSupport, but this won't help you if you're on MacTel.

Btw, if you're on PPC, you can use third party CFM jitter externals,  
if you have CFM support enabled, and have installed jitlib 1.5.3 in / 
Library/CFMSupport, but this won't help you if you're on MacTel.

Falling text symbols, need help