ComfortableInClouds

I haven't done much exploring with libraries, but I know there's a lot out there. I was curious as to what everyone's favorite is, or at the most, top 3.

Though it's not the most versatile library, I've found Adam Murray's ajm objects to be quite fun in toying around with algorithmic midi information.

I haven't done much exploring with libraries, but I know there's a lot out there. I was curious as to what everyone's favorite is, or at the most, top 3. 

Though it's not the most versatile library, I've found Adam Murray's ajm objects to be quite fun in toying around with algorithmic midi information.


favorite-library

Karlheinz Essl's Realtime Composition Lib

Ejies library
http://www.e--j.com/sphpblog/

Percolate
http://www.music.columbia.edu/PeRColate/

CNMAT Tools
http://cnmat.berkeley.edu/downloads

Karlheinz Essl's Realtime Composition Lib
http://www.essl.at/works/rtc.html

TapTools (not free but a good buy)
http://www.electrotap.com/taptoolsmax/


On May 28, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Kyle Kaplan wrote:

> I haven't done much exploring with libraries, but I know there's a 

> lot out there. I was curious as to what everyone's favorite is, or 

http://arts.ucsc.edu/ems/music/research/lobjects.readme.html

Even though zl has gotten more capable with Max 5, I find the lobjects 

close to indispensable. If you do anything with lists, this package is 

If you're at all a fan of things random, this is for you.

On May 28, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Kyle Kaplan wrote:
> I haven't done much exploring with libraries, but I know there's a  
> lot out there. I was curious as to what everyone's favorite is, or  
> at the most, top 3.

LObjects - http://arts.ucsc.edu/ems/music/research/lobjects.readme.html
Even though zl has gotten more capable with Max 5, I find the lobjects  
close to indispensable. If you do anything with lists, this package is  
for you.

Jasch Objects - http://www.jasch.ch/dl/default.htm
Very useful collection.

Litter Power -
http://www.bek.no/~pcastine/Litter/
If you're at all a fan of things random, this is for you.

Chris Muir
cbm@well.com	
http://www.xfade.com

+1! Some of the ejies are absolutely essential! My set wouldn't be the 

A ton of people really like the Lobjects. I would say that, although 

technically not a library, bonk~, pitch~, fiddle~ are reaaaally useful 

Oh, and of course: Jitter ;-) Now there's a library for ya.

Anthony Palomba skrev:
> Some libraries that are very useful...
>
> Ejies library
> http://www.e--j.com/sphpblog/
+1! Some of the ejies are absolutely essential! My set wouldn't be the 
same without the vdb, for instance.

A ton of people really like the Lobjects. I would say that, although 
technically not a library, bonk~, pitch~, fiddle~ are reaaaally useful 
for a lot of msp applications.

Oh, and of course: Jitter ;-) Now there's a library for ya.


www.sarc.qub.ac.uk/~elyon/LyonSoftware/MaxMSP

www.sarc.qub.ac.uk/~elyon/LyonSoftware/MaxMSP/FFTease

MSP objects implementing various forms of spectral sound processing. These include an additive-synthesis phase vocoder, noise reduction, cross synthesis, and more unusual forms of spectral processing.

http://www.iamas.ac.jp/~jovan02/cv/download.html

Enjoyed SoftVNS years ago, but haven't used it since the switch to intel.

Is Percolate going to be Max 5 compatible?

I use those objects in many of my patches. The only reason I open max 

On May 28, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Anthony Palomba wrote:

> Karlheinz Essl's Realtime Composition Lib

I use those objects in many of my patches. The only reason I open max  
4.6 is to use some of those objects.

>
> Some libraries that are very useful...
>
> Ejies library
> http://www.e--j.com/sphpblog/
>
> Percolate
> http://www.music.columbia.edu/PeRColate/
>
> CNMAT Tools
> http://cnmat.berkeley.edu/downloads
>
> Karlheinz Essl's Realtime Composition Lib
> http://www.essl.at/works/rtc.html
>
> TapTools (not free but a good buy)
> http://www.electrotap.com/taptoolsmax/


well I'm pretty sure I installed it correctly. this is what I did:

Copy the PeRColate_UB folder AND the PeRColate_support folder into 

Copy the PeRColate_help folder into the max-help folder of your Max 

Copy the PeRColate_overview.pat and percolate.jpg files into your 

I can open the overview patch and the help files but none of the 

objects seem to work. I'm using Max 5.0.2

On May 29, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Brad Cariou wrote:

> Percolate works on my Mac - it was the first thing I copied over 

> Subject: Re: [maxmsp] Re: Favorite Library?

> > Is Percolate going to be Max 5 compatible?

> > I use those objects in many of my patches. The only reason I

> > On May 28, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Anthony Palomba wrote:

> > > Some libraries that are very useful...

> > > Karlheinz Essl's Realtime Composition Lib

Copy the PeRColate_UB folder AND the PeRColate_support folder into  
your Max support folder (./Cycling'74).
Copy the PeRColate_help folder into the max-help folder of your Max  
distribution.
Copy the PeRColate_overview.pat and percolate.jpg files into your  
'extras' folder.

I can open the overview patch and the help files but none of the  
objects seem to work. I'm using Max 5.0.2

> Percolate works on my Mac - it was the first thing I copied over  
> from 4.6.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nick 
> Date: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:26 am
> Subject: Re: [maxmsp] Re: Favorite Library?
>
> > Is Percolate going to be Max 5 compatible?
> >
> > I use those objects in many of my patches. The only reason I
> > open max
> > 4.6 is to use some of those objects.
> >
> > Percolate
> > http://www.music.columbia.edu/PeRColate/
> >
> > Thanks, Nick
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 28, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Anthony Palomba wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Some libraries that are very useful...
> > >
> > > Ejies library
> > > http://www.e--j.com/sphpblog/
> > >
> > > Percolate
> > > http://www.music.columbia.edu/PeRColate/
> > >
> > > CNMAT Tools
> > > http://cnmat.berkeley.edu/downloads
> > >
> > > Karlheinz Essl's Realtime Composition Lib
> > > http://www.essl.at/works/rtc.html
> > >
> > > TapTools (not free but a good buy)
> > > http://www.electrotap.com/taptoolsmax/
> >
> >


I opened up the dsp window and made sure the audio was on

then I opened up the blowtar~ help file and cranked the volume, nothing

then I opened up the dac~ object in the blotar~ help file and all of 

a sudden everything worked and I blasted my ears. now everything 

seems to be working so thanks for your help.

I wasn't getting any error messages by the way.

On May 30, 2008, at 12:40 PM, Brad Cariou wrote:

> Are you getting any error messages in the Max window? I created two 

> new folders in the Max5/Cycling74 folder - one called 'third- 

> party' and one called 'third-party_help'. I put the Percolate UB 

> and the support files in my third-party folder. Just double-checked 

> > well I'm pretty sure I installed it correctly. this is what I did:

> > Copy the PeRColate_UB folder AND the PeRColate_support folder

> > your Max support folder (./Cycling'74).

> > Copy the PeRColate_help folder into the max-help folder of your

> > Copy the PeRColate_overview.pat and percolate.jpg files into

> > I can open the overview patch and the help files but none of

> > objects seem to work. I'm using Max 5.0.2

> > On May 29, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Brad Cariou wrote:

> > > Percolate works on my Mac - it was the first thing I copied

> > > Date: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:26 am

> > > Subject: Re: [maxmsp] Re: Favorite Library?

> > > > Is Percolate going to be Max 5 compatible?

> > > > I use those objects in many of my patches. The only reason I

> > > > 4.6 is to use some of those objects.

then I opened up the dac~ object in the blotar~ help file and all of  
a sudden everything worked and I blasted my ears. now everything  
seems to be working so thanks for your help.

> Are you getting any error messages in the Max window? I created two  
> new folders in the Max5/Cycling74 folder -  one called 'third- 
> party' and one called 'third-party_help'. I put the Percolate UB  
> and the support files in my third-party folder. Just double-checked  
> and they're making sound for me...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nick 
> Date: Friday, May 30, 2008 8:51 am
> Subject: Re: [maxmsp] Re: Favorite Library?
>
> > well I'm pretty sure I installed it correctly. this is what I did:
> >
> > Installation
> >
> > Copy the PeRColate_UB folder AND the PeRColate_support folder
> > into
> > your Max support folder (./Cycling'74).
> > Copy the PeRColate_help folder into the max-help folder of your
> > Max
> > distribution.
> > Copy the PeRColate_overview.pat and percolate.jpg files into
> > your
> > 'extras' folder.
> >
> >
> > I can open the overview patch and the help files but none of
> > the
> > objects seem to work. I'm using Max 5.0.2
> >
> > thanks, nick
> >
> >
> > On May 29, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Brad Cariou wrote:
> >
> > > Percolate works on my Mac - it was the first thing I copied
> > over
> > > from 4.6.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Nick 
> > > Date: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:26 am
> > > Subject: Re: [maxmsp] Re: Favorite Library?
> > >
> > > > Is Percolate going to be Max 5 compatible?
> > > >
> > > > I use those objects in many of my patches. The only reason I
> > > > open max
> > > > 4.6 is to use some of those objects.
> > > >
> > > > Percolate
> > > > http://www.music.columbia.edu/PeRColate/
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Nick
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On May 28, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Anthony Palomba wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Some libraries that are very useful...
> > > > >
> > > > > Ejies library
> > > > > http://www.e--j.com/sphpblog/
> > > > >
> > > > > Percolate
> > > > > http://www.music.columbia.edu/PeRColate/
> > > > >
> > > > > CNMAT Tools
> > > > > http://cnmat.berkeley.edu/downloads
> > > > >
> > > > > Karlheinz Essl's Realtime Composition Lib
> > > > > http://www.essl.at/works/rtc.html
> > > > >
> > > > > TapTools (not free but a good buy)
> > > > > http://www.electrotap.com/taptoolsmax/
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >


I've heard the New York Public Library is fabulous. Might want to check it out.

Miller’s fiddle~/bonk~ pair get used a lot around here. Fiddle~ more than bonk~.

Tristan's modified pitch recognition implementation, and all his analysis~ tools, are also seen a lot in my patches.

I occasionally borrow from RTC and St.ools, although usually I modify abstractions to suit a particular task at hand. But that's what abstractions are there for.

Of course, Litter Power gets used all the time... for noise sources, for random numbers, for mutation, and the range mapping utilities are..., well, I made the range mapping utilites super flexible because there wasn't anything else as flexible as I needed. The sigma family of arithmetic operators have been very handy... being able to collapse 15 [+] objects into a single box can be very convenient.

iCE also gets used... I'm not a tracker person by birth and musically my head is miles away from most tracker-style music, but I've found the tracking approach to sequencing useful in some of my most avantgarde stuff. So there.

Of course, Litter Power gets used all the time... for noise sources, for random numbers, for mutation, and the range mapping utilities are..., well, I made the range mapping utilites super flexible because there wasn't anything else as flexible as I needed. The sigma family of arithmetic operators have been very handy... being able to collapse 15 [+] objects into a single box can be very convenient. 

iCE also gets used... I'm not a tracker person by birth and musically my head is miles away from most tracker-style music, but I've found the tracking approach to sequencing useful in some of my most avantgarde stuff. So there.


The FTM/Gabor/mnm libraries are really powerful.

FTM has some fundamental differences to the pure Max world in terms of how messages are processed and is arguably less approachable than pure Max. I understand that you get alot more control and can do some good CPU optimisations once you understand how it works. You can accomplish complex calculations with a single FTM message box that would take many many Max objects with all their inherent communication CPU overhead.

Gabor is nice because the control data is sample accurate, and they have top class DSP algorithms that are really modular and flexible.

If you work with sensors then mnm can really simplify many things.

The learning curve is pretty steep and the documentation is somewhat neglected although there is a decent number of tutorials and examples. It also seems to be constantly evolving and improving so if you haven't checked it out in a while then maybe take a look.

The FTM/Gabor/mnm libraries are really powerful.  

FTM has some fundamental differences to the pure Max world in terms of how messages are processed and is arguably less approachable than pure Max.  I understand that you get alot more control and can do some good CPU optimisations once you understand how it works.  You can accomplish complex calculations with a single FTM message box that would take many many Max objects with all their inherent communication CPU overhead.

The learning curve is pretty steep and the documentation is somewhat neglected although there is a decent number of tutorials and examples.  It also seems to be constantly evolving and improving so if you haven't checked it out in a while then maybe take a look.

Quote: ComfortableInClouds wrote on Wed, 28 May 2008 16:30

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> I haven't done much exploring with libraries, but I know there's a lot out there. I was curious as to what everyone's favorite is, or at the most, top 3.

Quote: ComfortableInClouds wrote on Wed, 28 May 2008 16:30
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> I haven't done much exploring with libraries, but I know there's a lot out there. I was curious as to what everyone's favorite is, or at the most, top 3. 

Stumbled across this thread in a Google search and thought it would be interesting to resurrect it now, 7 years later.

Myself, I just got into RTC and am bubbling with exciting, albeit half-cooked, ideas.

Stumbled across this thread in a Google search and thought it would be interesting to resurrect it now, 7 years later.
Myself, I just got into RTC and am bubbling with exciting, albeit half-cooked, ideas.


apart from that, i second bachproject. it's grown to be the externals i use the most

also love ircam spat stuff, very nice sounds

"Autechre library" ?....
apart from that, i second bachproject. it's grown to be the externals i use the most
also love ircam spat stuff, very nice sounds
and CNMAT stuff (odot is very powerful)
