LoneMonad aka don malone

i am getting a new macbookpro 15" for max/msp/jitter

lacie (which gets very particular about concatenating)

i am paranoid about using the one firewire port for both hd & audio

how much do i gain by going firewire audio over usb audio on the new book?

recommendations for small fire interface?

http://faculty.roosevelt.edu/malone/downloads.htm

i am getting a new macbookpro 15" for max/msp/jitter
wondering about an audio interface
only need 2 in (mic/line) 2 out
have been using mbox on g4 book

i also use an external hd
lacie (which gets very particular about concatenating)
i am paranoid about using the one firewire port for both hd & audio

how much do i gain by going firewire audio over usb audio on the new book?
recommendations for small fire interface?
recommendations for small usb interface?
recommendations for another external hd?

it takes all of us
LoneMonad
http://faculty.roosevelt.edu/malone/downloads.htm


firevsusb

Someone I work with got a Presonus Firebox, which was rather 

impressive. The only thing to note being that the drivers that come 

with it don't include the spdif on/off function - you have to 

download a different driver from the presonus site to get this 

(perhaps only an issue if, like us, you use a Teabox sensor interface).

Someone I work with got a Presonus Firebox, which was rather  
impressive. The only thing to note being that the drivers that come  
with it don't include the spdif on/off function - you have to  
download a different driver from the presonus site to get this  
(perhaps only an issue if, like us, you use a Teabox sensor interface).

On 13 Jul 2006, at 17:05, David Stevens wrote:

> Someone I work with got a Presonus Firebox, which was rather 

I have yet to see a small interface which provides a decent cue mix, 

i.e. a separate headphone mix which can be a hardware-based mix of 

inputs, or a separate addressable output, preferably both (but 

certainly the latter). The full-size MOTU's with CueMix do this. The 

Edirol FA-66 can do only it if you sacrifice a pair of outputs 

(leaving one stereo analogue pair and one S/PDIF pair).

Having said that, a quick check on the Firebox seems to suggest it'll 

do this (they seem to have updated the web page since I last checked 

it). It's certainly a nicely-designed bit of kit; I don't know 

nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- 

> Someone I work with got a Presonus Firebox, which was rather  
> impressive.

I have yet to see a small interface which provides a decent cue mix,  
i.e. a separate headphone mix which can be a hardware-based mix of  
inputs, or a separate addressable output, preferably both (but  
certainly the latter). The full-size MOTU's with CueMix do this. The  
Edirol FA-66 can do only it if you sacrifice a pair of outputs  
(leaving one stereo analogue pair and one S/PDIF pair).

Having said that, a quick check on the Firebox seems to suggest it'll  
do this (they seem to have updated the web page since I last checked  
it). It's certainly a nicely-designed bit of kit; I don't know  
anything about its reliability.

   nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http:// 
www.cassiel.com


I have been very pleased with the Presonus as well.

Lawrence Casserley - lawrence@lcasserley.co.uk

Lawrence Electronic Operations - www.lcasserley.co.uk

Colourscape Music Festivals - www.colourscape.org.uk

Lawrence Casserley - lawrence@lcasserley.co.uk
Lawrence Electronic Operations - www.lcasserley.co.uk
Colourscape Music Festivals - www.colourscape.org.uk


does anyone know if the FireBox converters also run at 16bits

The box says - 24 bit/96k (6 ins, 10 outs, midi, sp/dif)

The box says - 24 bit/96k  (6 ins, 10 outs, midi, sp/dif)

If I remember well (I can't check now!), the motu ultralite can do this 

Centre de Recherches et de Formation Musicales de Wallonie asbl

If I remember well (I can't check now!), the motu ultralite can do this 
too.

p
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Centre de Recherches et de Formation Musicales de Wallonie asbl
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I have problems when using bus power from a Mac Mini 1.25, which don't happen if I plug into the G5.

The preamps are very good indeed for a firewire interface - I'm really fussy about bass guitar signals, but I get great results going direct into the Firebox.

The direct monitoring is a lot more flexible than most, but the control panel is a real pain in the ass to understand. I know that sounds unlikely, but try it out :-)

The Firebox can't work as SPDIF master, in case this is an issue.

Presonus customer support is excellent - I usually get a mail within a few hours (assuming the Americans aren't tucked up in their beds).

Serious contender would be the new Focusrite Saffire LE, at a similar price.

I think if you want good cueing and monitor you should maybe go for the maudio 18/14

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/FireWire1814-main.html

I could finally verify my previous post, and indeed, the ultralite has a phone mix, mixes can be routed to the phone output, hw output pairs (5 pairs in the ultralite) can be routed to the phone output.

Except the small display that is unreadable in many situations, the motu ultralite is a very nice interface.

I could finally verify my previous post, and indeed, the ultralite has a phone mix, mixes can be routed to the phone output, hw output pairs (5 pairs in the ultralite) can be routed to the phone output.
Except the small display that is unreadable in many situations, the motu ultralite is a very nice interface.

Indeed - it runs CueMix, just like the 828 II and Traveler.

Go slightly upmarket and you're into RME-land (Digiface, Multiface) 

with their TotalMix software, but these units still use the grotty 

CardBus interface (available separately...).

Go slightly upmarket and you're into RME-land (Digiface, Multiface)  
with their TotalMix software, but these units still use the grotty  
CardBus interface (available separately...).

> Go slightly upmarket and you're into RME-land (Digiface, Multiface) with 

> their TotalMix software, but these units still use the grotty CardBus 

RME Fireface 800 & 400.... predictably, both use firewire.

hmmm... just out of curiousity, Google says:<<

* very unpleasant or offensive ; "a grotty little play"

So I disagree - I like CardBus, because it works very predictably, and 

that prediction is "no problems"... more than I can say for Firewire in 

this sort of application. And yes, my ancient laptop actually *has* a 

> Go slightly upmarket and you're into RME-land (Digiface, Multiface) with 
> their TotalMix software, but these units still use the grotty CardBus 
> interface (available separately...).

hmmm... just out of curiousity, Google says:<<
Definitions of grotty on the Web:

     * very unpleasant or offensive ; "a grotty little play"
       wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
 >>

So I disagree - I like CardBus, because it works very predictably, and 
that prediction is "no problems"... more than I can say for Firewire in 
this sort of application.  And yes, my ancient laptop actually *has* a 
PC Card slot.  ;)


RME's "Fireface" is grotless, and note the new 

RME's "Fireface" is grotless, and note the new 
Fireface-400.

On 16 Jul 2006, at 02:01, Robert Albert Falesch wrote:

> RME's "Fireface" is grotless, and note the new Fireface-400.

The 800 is nice, but is a full rack width and quite expensive, so I 

thought it was outside the remit of this thread. I didn't know about 

the 400: it looks nice, and it provides ADAT in a 1/2 rack space 

without the drawbacks (predominantly physical) of CardBus connectivity.

The 800 is nice, but is a full rack width and quite expensive, so I  
thought it was outside the remit of this thread. I didn't know about  
the 400: it looks nice, and it provides ADAT in a 1/2 rack space  
without the drawbacks (predominantly physical) of CardBus connectivity.

sorry for being unclear: i meant the presonus firebox - but it seems 

to be an issue when used in combination with mac-mini.

i know happy ibook and pbook users, where its been working great over 

sorry for being unclear: i meant the presonus firebox - but it seems  
to be an issue when used in combination with mac-mini.
i know happy ibook and pbook users, where its been working great over  
long periods.

hans w. koch
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